"The Watch Tower is a Wicked Organization ... (page 3)

snowbird

Here you go, Soldier.

Matthew 7:15 "Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them. NIV

Syl

brotherdan

Galatians 1:8 (New International Version)

8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!

No one called YOU wicked, debator.

What is the gospel that you preach that is different from what Jesus preached? Let me make a list:

1. 1914 was the date that Christ ALREADY came

2. Jesus is an angel (See Heb 1:4-6)

3. God will destroy all those that do not belong to a single man-made organization

4. The Watchtower has been guilty of countless false prophecies throughout their 100+ year history

5. The INSIST on using the man-made name "Jehovah" which they even acknowledge is not a correct rendering of the divine name. Yet, they say that their use of this name is a PROOF that they are God's true organization

6. Christ is not a mediator for all men, but only for the 144,000

7. They refuse to be called "Jesus' Witnesses" as commanded in Acts 1:4 and instead use the term "Jehovah's Witnesses"

8. The Holy Spirit is not a person, but it is God's magic

9. Salvation is given as a reward for work

10. Only 144,000 people can go to heaven to be with Christ

Shall I go on? I think you get the point, debator. The gospel that they/you preach is VERY different from the gospel of the bible. Even non-christian atheists agree with that statement.

wasblind

Debator,

pick up any WT literature at your hand right now

they are always judging others and comparing themselves

to others. They take judgement out of the hands of

jesus everytime they hold a Judicial commitee

snowbird

Have a bit of commonsense then.

And leave us alone to sink or swim by our own convictions over what are pure Bible truths.

Tell that to the WT.

They are the ones who have interjected themselves into all aspects of its members' lives.

Syl

brotherdan

Acts 5:38-39 (New International Version)

38 Therefore, in the present case I advise you: Leave these men alone! Let them go! For if their purpose or activity is of human origin, it will fail. 39 But if it is from God, you will not be able to stop these men; you will only find yourselves fighting against God."

I used to use that same example. But you talk about using common sense? How come catholics are still around if they are false (according to you)? Does that mean that they are from God? They've existed for thousands of years.

Soldier77

Sylvia - Thank you! I just read those verses last night before I went to bed and forgot where.

To chime in with Dan, no one called YOU wicked debator, the topic is The Watch Tower... way to go on reading comprehension.

brotherdan

Also debator, people would be HAPPY to leave you alone to go down with your organization. The problem is...YOU DON'T LEAVE US ALONE!!!!

Your organization is ruining my life as I speak! No one is allowed to leave quietly. You have to been sneaky and try to fade if you want to leave quietly, but even then they still will DF if they find out you do something contrary to their teachings. It's a SICK SICK organization.

It's demonic. It's from Satan.

wasblind

Debator,

there's an old sayin'

"common sense ain't as common as you think"

Lozhasleft

The organisation is indeed wicked...individuals in there who arent chasing power are really so blinded ...I pity them really.

Loz x

debator

Hi Brotherdan

1/ 1914 is derived from Bible chronology and prophecy we are allowed to use both of these and indeed are supposed to.

2/ The bible itself calls him the Angel of the covenant.

Malachi 3:1 Amplified bible
BEHOLD, I send My messenger, and he shall prepare the way before Me. And the Lord [the Messiah], Whom you seek, will suddenly come to His temple; the Messenger or Angel of the covenant, Whom you desire, behold, He shall come, says the Lord of hosts.

3/ what are Christians? and was Jesus a man?

Acts 26:28-29 (New International Version)

28 Then Agrippa said to Paul, "Do you think that in such a short time you can persuade me to be a Christian?"

29 Paul replied, "Short time or long—I pray God that not only you but all who are listening to me today may become what I am, except for these chains."

4/ They haven't made a single false prophecy as they have never claimed inspiration ever.

5/ We do not speak ancient Hebrew the bible inspired in three different languages allows for transliterated names from one language to another. Jehovah uses all of YHWH the complete name of God in written hebrew. Think about the English form of Jesus you use that bears little resemblance to the original Yeshua or yehoshuah or Iesous that are his name in different languages. You condemn from the an unbiblical preposition that God wants us all to speak Ancient hebrew or that his name only counts in that language alone (a rule you only use on Jehovah's name and apply to no other name least of all Jesus's)

6/ 144,000 is a Bible teaching and so is Jesus choosing his firstfruits to be kings and priests with him in heaven. He mediates a covenant with them that effects all mankind. But if you think Everyone will be kings and Priests in heaven over a few sheep and goats on earth that is your choice.

7/ Acts 1:8 is not about using a name but about what we preach and we do preach and witness about Jesus we just don't lop off his father and stick Jesus on his throne. Jesus said it himself.

John 17:1-3

1 After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed: "Father,.... 3 Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

Jehovah our Father and Jesus are not a multiple choice. We have to witness about both as Jesus himself witnesses about his father too.

Revelation 1:5
Grace and peace to you from him who is, and who was, and who is to come, and from the seven spirits before his throne, and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness

8/ The bible never calls the holy spirit a person it is always refered in neuter terms and as God's power (literally the "breath of God") john 1:1 is notable like many other proof texts for trinity in it's lack of mention of holy spirit. When jesus and his father are picture in heaven they are both together but the spirit is never pictured as a person.

9/ total lie! we have never taught that salvation is through works. We have always taught that our Faith motivates true Christians to do works.

10/ like I saids earlier It willl be a rather full heaven that makes a lie out of the promises in isaiah and Jesus's own words if everyone goes to heaven.

Matthew 5:5
Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth.

Brotherdan You need to research your Bible more!

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