How many 'Wake up' moments have you experienced? (page 2)

notverylikely

It was good to meet with you and OTWO again this week.

HeyI was (kinda) there! I was the guy that called OTWO while you gents were having lunch.

DagothUr

1. Studied the Bible in detail.

2. Realized that the Bible is not divine, but the work of a handful of clever Israelites who died a long time ago.

3. From point 2 I deducted that Jay Hoover is just a man-made deity and that Jesus was either a man or he did not exist at all.

4. Realized that I entrusted a huge part of my life to a handful of old farts in Brooklyn, based on my stupid devotion towards a fake god.

5. I discovered the skeletons in the GB closet, I started to hate assholes like Russel, Rutherford, Jaracz, etc.

6. I DA myself and became an atheist apostate, which is the greatest religion on Earth.

Recently my hubby having a MI has gvien us a very serious "moment". We wern't supposed to grow old or get sick. Nearly meeting the grim reaper will wake you up . There is only so much time we are all allowed and ours is running out. We really will die and grow old. I recall what Warren Zevon said on Letterman in 02 shortly before he died of cancer , " enjoy every sandwhich".

jaguarbass

AK Jeff.

I have had all the same experiences you have in about the same order.

I can relate to the pain, I dont get the exhilaration.

I dont know what to think about God. I have a hard time accepting there is no God.

But the bible and religions have dropped the ball regarding God.

So it kind of leaves me lost and confused.

I'll have to be like Abraham in the bible and invent my own belief system.

I dont think for me, at my age and my wiring, upbringing that atheism is a very happy or rewarding

outlook or view of things regardless of how true it may be.

So that leaves me with delusion.

But it is kind of hard to delude myself.

Consciousnees and awareness is kind of like a pair of elastic fruit of the loom

underwear, once you expand the elastic too far, it doesnt pop back.

So I'm taking anti depressants.

And trying to think about music and playing my guitar.

THe bible is right about a lot of things and one of them is wisdom causes pain.

Ecclesiastes 1:18

When the JW's recommended reading your bible daly, I dont think they meant it or believed

people would do it. And I'm sorry I ever examined the scriptures and prayed to know the truth about

the troof. Ignorance was bliss.

But it could also be as painfull and disasterous as knowledge and wisdom.

I guess were just screwed down here on earth. We all have a death sentece some sooner, some latter.

Every thing we love is going to die and leave us. We came in alone we go out alone.

Eat drink and be merry thats Gods gift to man.

Thats also in Ecclesiastes.

When I was trapped in the tower the society used to attribute that saying to the ancient Epicureans.

But I found out it was biblical, Solomon wrote it in Ecclesiastes 3: 12, 13

NewYork44M

I have had similar wake up calls. One that I woud like to add. I woke up to the fact that my wife (now ex) will forever fight me about not going to the meetings. She set me up and had an elder meet with me. If I had a gun I would have shot each of the dead. That is how angry I was. As far as I was concerned, that was the end of my marriage.

It took me close to 10 years to leave the organization and another 5-6 years to divorce my wife.

Those who are going through what I went through. There is life afterwards. And it is wonderful.

Violia

((( jaguarbuss))) . we all bought into the delusion of life without end.

OnTheWayOut

JRK: All of my core beliefs were infused with false JW dogma. I had to start with "Is the sky really blue?", and go from there.

That is an excellent analogy. Even though I finally accepted that WTS did not have the market on "the truth," I didn't know what to believe.

Gregor

NY44,

Took a few years but you cleaned up two big messes and you didn't kill anybody. Smart man.

AK - Jeff

Some of these pinnings of reality are painful I see. Others are not so much.

For me, there was tremendous pain. Some have accused me of arrogance for my atheistic views these days [not on this thread] - but it is not arrogance at all, but the ultimate humility to recognize our finite nature. And to understand that humanism is what we need, not delusion about god/gods that will save us.

The exhilaration comes not from intense pleasure at this discovery - but from intense pleasure in living life NOW.

"This is for all the lonely people, thinking life has passed them by" a line from a well known song that encourages moving forward and loving life.

Some get the reward of coming to grips with reality much earlier than others. Some will, unfortunately live till the last breath reaching out to Jesus or some other 'Saviour' who won't ever reach back because he exists only in their poor deluded minds. I am free of that insanity and soooo wish that all of mankind could be free in the same manner.

Some would condemn that comment with insistence that 'no harm comes from it' - I disagree.

Peace

Jeff

designs

When I moved to the rural community I live in over 20 years ago I met an old man in town who's father had planted an Apple Orchard back in the late 1890s in a little hidden valley near Mt. Palomar about 50 miles East of us. I took a group of kids on a day hike and found the valley and the Apple Orchard and the Apple trees were still producing.

That's my wake up message......

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