Here's what I have so far...

by MrFreeze 25 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • wannabefree
    wannabefree

    Why play? The organization will not make any changes for you, they'll just kick you out and call you an apostate, the lowest position a human being can hold as far as they are concerned.

  • 3Mozzies
    3Mozzies

    Excellent Mr Freeze

    Can't wait till you update us on how they responded.

    3Mozzies

  • Aussie Oz
    Aussie Oz

    sorry to say but i think they are setting you up to prove that you are what they suspect...

    apostate.

    You may rattle them on one or two but like others have said, all they want is for you to confirm that you do not think god directs them and its the boot for you...

    all the best with it

    oz

  • Black Sheep
    Black Sheep

    Don't give them 12.

    Give them one and do a good job of it.

    Tell them you'll give them the next one after they have answered this one.

    Control.

    Control.

    Control.

    Control.

    Control.

    You have to control the subject at all times.

    Do not answer their questions.

    If they want to save you, they have to answer your question.

    Don't give them the king list .... ask them to give it to you. Tell them nothing. Just ask. Make them do the work.

  • troubled mind
    troubled mind

    I love your list so far and I agree you should include the point Nice_dream shared . Keep us posted .

    As for what the Elders do with the information Who Knows ....they asked ,and what you have listed so far is straight forward and logical questions .

    I guess they could get frustrated when they can't come up with good answers . More than likely though they will give typical JW answers and not be able to comprehend why you don't get it !

  • mamalove
    mamalove

    Good list. I am surprised they are humoring your doubts. Usually they just DF you and be done with you. Another job well done for the good ol boys.

  • blondie
    blondie

    Wilson was president and he refused to join.

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    Actually the League was Wilson's baby and it was Congress that did not want to join. The result in the end was the US did not join the League.

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/wilson/portrait/wp_league.html

    http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/ww40.htm

  • Soldier77
    Soldier77

    you are just prolonging the inevitable. You will be DF'd for apostasy and they will enjoy it every minute of the way. Why? Because you played by their rules. If you like playing games and losing, then you will have fun.

    If not, I suggest you stop feeding them more ammo to DF you and just leave on you're own terms. Making 'lists' to 'prove' your point wont open their eyes. They are in crisis management mode and are high on the horse that they got you by the balls. They are on a crusade to reveal and remove an apostate from their ranks. Do not be fooled.

    Good luck.

  • MrFreeze
    MrFreeze

    Does it really matter if they DF me? No it does not. I'll probably just leave it at this and give it to them. I know they will DF me but they will probably do that anyway.

  • Think About It
    Think About It

    Good work and research on your list, but deep inside you do know how much of that you are going to get to tell them? Nada. Soon as you confirm their apostate suspicions they will bum rush you out the door if you try to talk with them about your other points. Good luck.

    Think About It

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