by Nickolas 56 Replies latest members private
I will need to be very circumspect lest I kill the conversation as it is only beginning.
--Very easy to accidently do.
The teaching on blood is the flimsiest, most easily deconstructed thing that JW's teach. All but the most mind-numbed zombies among JW's are already secretly uncomfortable with it.
Nick,
I had similar issues as you with blood. There were some good replies in this thread to me. I re-read it every once in a while.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/182412/1/Im-Still-Torn-About-the-Blood-Issue
thank you, palmtree. I'm almost through the thread. Just taking a breather after reading this post by Rabbit:
Today is the anniversary of my JW mom's death over the blood issue. Shortly after she died...the WTS in all their glorious 'feeding the flock at the right time'...allowed another fraction which would have saved her life. Hemoglobin.
TD's article about the frustration and anger the doctors and nurses feel watching the "routine" deaths of Jehovah's Witnesses was very accurate -- and hit me hard. I watched that death scene, I was holding my mom's hand. It's hard ...to watch a loved one slowly smother to death in a perfectly good hospital. The doctors and nurses were literally wringing their hands -- they were not allowed to do their jobs: Saving a human life.
I'm also reading some of what Mary went through. It's enough to make one weep.
This is too much. I've been reading nonstop since I started this thread more than four hours ago and I'm exhausted. I'm going to take a break, digest some of this stuff. come back in later on tonight. Thank you all.
very mind opening...
Sw
I always say the blood issue is a way in. JW are allowed to have diffrent views from other JW's regarding this issue. They are allowed some form of thought in the blood/fraction/treatment zone......push the boundries expand the thoughts without slapping the cult personality. This is the angle I am slowly working with my mom. This is some POWERFUL SHIT! One of the main reasons I am typing today!
Every Nursing Mother disproves the Society's prohibition on White Blood Cells.
A Religion run by High School dropouts is a very dangerous religion.
Do Jehovah’s Witnesses accept any medical products derived from blood?
The fundamental answer is that Jehovah’s Witnesses do not accept blood.
The 'fundamental answer', as they put it, does not answer the question. The question was do Witnesses accept any medical products derived from blood, and after all the gobbledygook, the answer is apparently YES. LIARS
TD's awesome post on the grammar got me to see something.
All my life I have abstained from [smoking] tobacco - for good reason, I think....But If I were ill and supposing the doctor said he could cure me with shots of the active tobacco plant, without any chance or a very small chance of it causing an addiction to be overcome.
Would I take the cure ? You bet I would...My aversion to smoking it is totally different from the medically administered treatment.
In the Reasoning book on page 71 it States: "Similarly, any food to which whole blood or even some fraction has been added should not be eaten,
Then this says that no JW mother should ever breast feed her child as blood cells are in the mother's milk. (and what designs said )
Who is the person most associated with faith by the major three monotheistic religions?
Answer: ABRAHAM.
Why is he considered so?
Abraham was willing to kill his own son.
Did he kill his own son?
No.
But, he was WILLING to.
Abraham was stopped by an angel of the most high. The deed of sacrifice was IMPUTED to him even though the deed was NOT carried out.
Jehovah's Witnesses who are willing to allow their children (who are diagnosed as needing blood transfusions to live) to die rather than violate their faith in regards to the blood issue are often stopped by courts of the land.
If the Superior Authorities (of scripture) stand placed in their relative positions over us by God's own permission--who are these JW's to decry the stopping (as by an angel) of the deed itself?
Why fight it? Their righteousness is evident. Their faith would be imputed (like Abraham). So, what is the problem?
Clearly, it has to be a desire to grandstand as martyrs to curry favor with the big Guy in the sky (and more importantly, with the Governing Body and the local Kingdom Hall.)
Am I wrong?
Terry
