by FreePeace 22 Replies latest jw friends
Geez doug, I still carry a bit of jw baggage I can't quite shake about hypnosis. My daughter (whom I've mentioned to you recently) has had a recommendation to someone who helped someone else she knows in my daughters sitation via hypnosis. I kinda glossed over her enthusiasm to try it - and I know it was my jw baggage. So how does it work? Why does it work? Ain't it just those deemonz AGAIN?
sorry to be so crass!
Marilyn
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Congrats, sounds awsom.
I've tried that a few times, thought it would help me quit smoking but no luck so far. I think my therapist must be new at it. After a session in the office i'm suppose to go home and continue self hypnosis, ya ok maybe if I lived in a cabin in the mts. but not in an apt. A noisy one. I want to try and find another theropist.
can U recomend any on the west coast?
plm
Hey Marilyn,
I completely understand your concerns about hypnosis. I myself had them as well until I learned exactly what hypnosis is and what it is not. Check out this link for myths concerning hypnosis http://www.wendi.com/Contact/affiliate/Myths/myths.html.
One other thing, isn't the fact that you have JW baggage about hypnosis exactly the reason why you should explore it? Remember, the WTS strongly discourages ANYTHING that will help a person think clearer, improve themselves within, and become educated.
Edited to add: The WTS's position on hypnosis is nothing short of Dark-Ages ignorance.
Stated plainly, hypnotherapy is NOT what you think. It is simply transmitting the power of positive suggestion directly to the inner mind so as to overcome disabling beliefs and behaviors. The client is ALWAYS in control, remembers everything, and can get up and walk out anytime.
I hope this helps.
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plmkrzy:
I'm sorry, I don't know of any Hypnotherapists on the west coast. Visit the following website http://www.hypnosiseducation.com, call the toll-free number, and ask Doc Brady (an ex-JW) who he would recommend. He'll be glad to help you.
FreePeace
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Stated plainly, hypnotherapy is NOT what you think.
yeah right.
"Think4oneSelf, you are getting very sleepy. You are completely and totally open to knew ideas. When I snap my finger, your only mission in life will be the total sexual satisfaction of your husband. You will call and as Dana to get her sweet fanny over here right now....
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SixofNine
Do you imagine everyone has the same twisted fantasies that you do?
No we don't, trust me...we can do WAY better!
Doug doesn't need hypnotherapy to have his every need met, thank you very much...and vice versa! So there!
Now, as far as calling Dana up and asking her to bring her sweet ass over...I think maybe you are projecting some of your own fantasies here? I'll give you her phone # if you ask nicely.
think41self
It's my party and I'll cry if I want to!
WOW! thats great. wish i was nearer to you...I'd be your guinea pig.
flower
My "sweet fanny"???? My phone #??? Just what the 'ell is goin' on here??! Sheesh, congratulate a guy and the next thing ya know, you're being objectified and bandied about as though...wait a minute...hey, thass a good thing!
Dana
Howdy,
I followed your click to the company called "The National Board of Hynotherapists." Within 100 to 175 hours and several books, a couple of videos - it seems a person can help do away with personal guilt, obesity, nicotine addiction, going back to "early age", and a host of other ills.
One of the concerns I have with this type of thing is this: 100 - 175 is not all that long to be "cerftified" as a master of anything - nor does a couple of books and videos make a knowledge professional.
Also, at the other site you gave address for, Wendi will use hynosis to improve our love lives, enlarge our breasts, teach us how hypnotize our lovers, be thin, etc., etc., the list is nearly endless.
I used to practice self-hynosis (childhood incest issues) - was never hypnotized by anyone, nor was I shown the technique (at least as an adult to my memory.) I understand the concept that my doing this to myself did not program me to do anything - or implant foreign concepts.
However, there's a catch involved - and a Big One. You're playing with people's minds. You don't know much about those people's minds - only what they want you to know. You don't know if other things are going on in those people's minds - such as childhood traumas, emotional, mental, physical disabilities/sickenesses that those people might not even be aware of. Or, the people just want to see what happens if someone pushes "the right button."
A dangerous game because there has been research that under hypnosis, a person can be receptive to suggestions (however discreetly put) by the person hypnotizing them. Also, the wrong questions asked, or even worded wrongly can have a strong consequence on the patient. There's also research done that a person who hypnotizes themselves can do the same thing.
The hynotist may innocently want to help a person over obesity, depression or something similiar. There may be underlying issues causing these things in the person - and the person may not have dealt with these issues - or even be aware of them.
What happens if the hypnotist unleashes the proverbial demon in the brain? Of course, there will be those who say, "Well, of course, one should go to a good hypnotist, hypnotherapist." Well, duh........putting the initials DH, M.ht, C.ht doesn't mean much to the average person. And even after reading this site, it still doesn't mean much as this is a self-avowed new field.
I've also found that most people will say they're good at whatever they're pushing. Ever been to a surgeon who openly admits he's crappy - but encourages you to let him cut on you?
Interestingly, it was touted that they won't accept anyone with a criminal record. Fine. Later on, they say that there are new laws stipulating this course of action. So they're just following the law.
For a psychiatrist, psychologist, highly trained therapist - a good tool, no doubt. For Joe Blow with enough money and a 100 hours? Could be quite controversial.
Btw, one of the first questions that a survivor/victim of childhood rape/molestation will be asked by the police is: "Have you ever been hynotized?" If a person has been, their credibility as a witness will be greatly compromised, no matter if the hypnosis therapy was done by a psychiatrist or Joe Blow.
I wish you well - and to choose your clients warily. Under hypnosis, they may have the ability to get up and walk out if the room is on fire - but the "outside observer" {wendi's site) can only be as knowledgeable to the pitfalls of their person's mind as they have knowledge. And memories are damned tricky. How does one know that he doesn't remember something if there's nothing to trigger that memory? He just has no knowledge - nor would his "outside observer."
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