Thank God we get to save all the money worldly people send on Christmas.

life is to short

I was thinking back to all the years I pioneered and all the money I wasted. My husband and I would go through three tanks of gas a week. Granted gas was about a $1.50 a gallon then but it still cost us about $216.00 a month or $2,592 a year. In today's time it would be $480 a month or $5,760.00 a year. This did not even begin to cover the repairs on the car or the tires we went through.

The whole time I pioneered I did not find one person interested enough to even stick to a study. All the return visits amounted to nothing, not one new convert. I did have one study progress to baptism a young girl of a JW family who moved into the hall and she only got baptized to shut up her parents. I told the elder she did not truly want to get baptized and to leave her alone but no she said she wanted to get baptized and then she promptly left the "truth" and was DF'ed. I felt sick about it as she was then cut off from everyone, but it was what it was. I was blamed for not being a better teacher.

I was thinking how much money do people really spend on Christmas compared to what JW's spend on field service?

Even if you do not pioneer you can still burn though a tank of gas once a week if you live in the county or half a tank in the city that is still $160.00, or $1,920 a year country or $80 a month city or $ 960 a year in today's times.

This also does not cover clothes and dry cleaning.

I never had any joy pioneering contrary to what was preached at me from the meetings and assembly's. I tried and tried and tried to find joy and beat myself up so bad for not having joy. I just could not understand what was wrong with me. I was doing the work of the true God, what he wanted, what he commanded, demanded of me to do. The Angles were watching and directing me yet I was so depressed I wished I were dead so many days out in the service. There were days when I would think of going home to commit suicide that night after a day of joy full service.

I guess am still putting the pieces together in my mind and trying to understand and make sense of what I went through and why. I did I do it? I did what I was told without clearly thinking it all the way through. Why, why did I do that? I hated being so depressed and yet I felt God wanted it.

I remember so many days this time of year and everyone looked so happy yet we were told they were not happy, that they had to do Christmas to please their families. If the worldly people had their choose and desire they would never do Christmas and waste all of that money. We were excuse the word LUCKY to not have to worry about Christmas. Lucy us.

I like the fact that Bethel might be reading this sight maybe they are reading this right now. Not that they will change anything but they know that we know they are lying to us and it makes me feel better to know that.

LITS

Mad Sweeney

By this time of year, the average JDub has blown so much money on gas and car maintenance for service, hotels and travel costs for assemblies/conventions, donating for the local hall, building fund, worldwide work, etc., and if he's an elder - going all over the circuit for talks that it makes Christmas spending of "worldly" people seem economical.

jay88

Man/woman can not live on bread alone,, yada, yada, yada.......until one has developed a life of interest outside of JW activities,

there will alway be a problem.

Soldier77

The WTS beats into the members heads that they are worthless, undeserving, sinful creatures and even after slaving for years for them they still say you haven't done enough, you're still worthless, unworthy of God's kindness and love. Sounds like a great religion cult doesn't it?

But we now know the truth LITS, we know better than to feel that way and even then it's a constant struggle to combat those feelings of years of indoctrination. Hang in there, keep fighting the negatives with the positives and when you think you're about ready to give up, lean on your friends to give you a hand.

(((LITS)))

BluesBrother

Propaganda is all about denigrating the other side, governments do it too. Today the WTS does it with Higher education too, making out that graduates never get jobs .....

Re Christmas and birthdays, it was not until I struck up a real friendship with someone "outside" that I realized how happy such times are. Their family ties were closer than mine because, at the least, they sent greeting cards and a small gift , to keep in touch

There is a lot to be said for "the old system of things"..

wasblind

Hey there ((((((( LITS )))))))

I understand exactly what your sayin' it just don't make sense

for a pioneer to waste all that time and money just to aquire

a few bible studies and no converts, when there are other

ways to get the word out much faster and with out being such a

burden to its members ,especially in these hard pressed times, like Blues Brother

stated in so many words, it's all for show,

Hey Bethel, you big Dummies, if your reading this, the Bible speaks of d2d because that is how you relayed messages back then

non religious as well as religious messages. As time goes on things become more convenient to be able to relay things at a much

quicker pace. Let me give you an example:

Here in the U.S we started out with the pony express, got even better with the U.S. postal system as we know it today, and have surpassed that with E-Mails that we recieve in seconds.

And in all this time you all can not come up with any "new Light" to lighten the load of the flock

you big Dummies

sorry LITS I got off topic BTTT

WTWizard

Let's see. I spent something like $2,000 on Chirstmas lights and decorations I expect to last a good many years. And people seem to be cheered up by them.

Now, how long would that $2,000 have gone in the witless world? Three tanks of gas, at $216 a month (old prices) would go about 9 or 10 months before my lights would have been paid off. Wear and tear on the car would probably last about an estimated 6-9 months before paying off my lights. Going to McDonalds every day for lunch, assuming 5 days a week and paying $7 a day, would cost $140 or so a month. Suit dry cleanings add at least another $65 a month per person. Other field circus supplies also add up. I would say that the money I "wasted" on Christmas decorations would last at most 4 months--and not brighten up even one person's day.

And mind you, that $2,000 includes everything. It includes all the tools and equipment needed to decorate like the pros. It includes going online and paying $18 a string for lights, plenty of storage reels so they will not get tangled, the ornaments, clips, a Type 1A stepladder (6 foot), poles, and everything else needed for a professional display. A simpler display, which would be more typical of the average worldly person, includes perhaps $500 worth of equipment and ornaments. Or, a bit more than a month's worth of expenses incurred by being a witless.

And that doesn't even include time off from work, not getting a good education, and that all the decent jobs are "unscriptural(??)".

sabastious

"Yes! We get to save money..."

AT THE COST OF YOUR SOUL!

-Sab

sabastious

Let's see. I spent something like $2,000 on Chirstmas lights and decorations I expect to last a good many years. And people seem to be cheered up by them.

2k? That's some healthy community competition if you ask me!

-Sab

mouthy

LIT SThis time of the year must be very hard for you living with a J.W
But remember how fortunate you were as a "lousy" pioneer,NOT making any one J.W
As I told you already I made 10 besides my kids,....So you were NOT as stupid as MOUTHY!!!
THANK GOD!!! I feel guilty at all the lies I told MY followers.Mine because I had given my own
mind to the OLD MEN in Brooklyn Bethel
So Love just be happy you NOW Know it wasnt all wasted Because look how many you help NOW!!!!!

Mouthy

Thank God we get to save all the money worldly people send on Christmas.

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