I just cringe when reading sillyness like this

therevealer

It is from a Yahoo e-mail group.

Is anyone aware of a talk that explains the principle regarding disfellowshipping? I need to explain to my adult children why I can't attend their sister's wedding.

Here's the situation.... My unbaptized daughter is marrying a worldly man and has asked that I attend her wedding "ceremony". As her disfellowshiped mother will be in attendance she understands that I can't go to the reception (1Corinthians5:11) . . .not even eating with such a man. However, she's asking that I at least attend the ceremony.

How sad it is that some of our children leave Jehovah's organization for the world and then attempt to burden the believing parent with a measure of 'guilt' for not bending our principles to accomodate their chosen lifestyle! This is now the second daughter I've faced this situation with.

So this person who is obviously an adult wants to be advised of a "talk" that helps with principle of disfellowshipping. No point asking for bible references. . .

bohm

Can you think of a good thing that would only be carried out by a religious person?

Can you think of a bad thing that would only be carried out by a religious person?

therevealer

I think I am missing your point bohm.

I just love how they pull a choice scripture and beat it to death. Don't worry yourself if it doesn't have application to the example you are dealing with.

just n from bethel

revealer - I'm familiar with the Yahoo group. They often ask for those recorded talks.

Here's an interesting response you might want to make. Respond that the talk "Be an encouragement to the brothers" by GB member Dan Sydlik has an interesting point regarding disfellowshipped ones. He says to 'even be encouraging to disfellowshipped ones.'

I kid you not, he said that in a talk that's up on that website where everyone can download the talks.

You won't find it in a Watchtower, but it comes from the mouth of the F&DS.

I'll see if I can find it - it probably should be posted here.

bohm

My point is that assuming this person is relatively sane --which may be a stretch but indulge me-- there is absolutely no justification outside her narrow-minded backwards theology she could use, to justify taking a big piss on one of the best days in her daughters life, and then have to ask strangers for help to do so. None. It only happends when you worship Jehovah or more specifically the 7-8 old men in brooklyn.

Whenever the same 7-8 geezers beat their drum about how great all JWs are for doing what they say I keep such examples of cruelty in mind, it does not happend despite her faith, it happends because it.

On the other hand, so far i have not seen one positive thing happend because of their faith which is not rutinely done by unbelievers.

blondie

Here's the situation.... My unbaptized daughter is marrying a worldly man and has asked that I attend her wedding "ceremony". As her disfellowshiped mother will be in attendance she understands that I can't go to the reception (1Corinthians5:11) . . .not even eating with such a man. However, she's asking that I at least attend the ceremony.

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DF'd mother

UNBAPTIZED daughter

marrying

WORLDLY man

I take it this is the JW father saying he can't go because of the DF'D mother?

I don't know about where he is, but in this area he could not attend the wedding/reception even if his DF'd (ex?) wife did not attend.

His daughter is unbaptized (what does that mean, grew up going to the meetings, never an unbaptized publisher?)

Is this daughter attending meetings still?

darth frosty

Bohn:

Can you think of a good thing that would only be carried out by a religious person?

Can you think of a bad thing that would only be carried out by a religious person?

I see your point! All these person's make it seem like their religion makes them so righteous while they carry out the most heinous and egregious acts in the name of said religion.

Mad Sweeney

Can you think of a good thing that would only be carried out by a religious person?

Can you think of a bad thing that would only be carried out by a religious person?

Exactly, Bohm. Very insightful.

There isn't a single "good act" that religious people do that "worldly" people don't also do, naturally. The law of love is written on people's hearts, not dictated and demanded by an organization. I think that is in the Bible somewhere.

As for "bad acts" there are many done by both religious and non-believers, but I don't think I've ever heard of an atheist murdering doctors who perform abortions, blowing himself up in a crowded cafe, or beating his 12 year old daughter to death.

Then again, religious folk like redefining words, so "good" and "bad" don't mean the same thing to them that they do to normal people. They say bad is good and good is bad, so to speak. I think that's in the Bible somewhere, too.

Who is blind if not religious folk? (that one's also in there)

Listener

How sad it is that some of our children leave Jehovah's organization for the world and then attempt to burden the believing parent with a measure of 'guilt' for not bending our principles to accomodate their chosen lifestyle!

Oh dear, not very christianlike, they'll have to go and have a serious talk to an elder because they shouldn't have a guilt feeling. (sarcasm)

I guess they won't be contributing towards their daughters reception then.

therevealer

Okay I get the point bohm and agree. It is so sad that they are so screwed up in their thinking/cult thinking in these matters. None of this type of crap is biblical it is all based on the party line.

Blondie, your thoughts and questions add to the stupidity. The witnesses brag about their unity of teaching and belief world wide. And yet it so depends on where they live, attitude of elders and so on.

I just cringe when reading sillyness like this

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