The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

by cofty 556 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    the Fink, just because some archaeologists made up stuff

    Yeh , they always make stuff up like placing supposedly old artifacts embedded in the ground, where old civilizations once thrived and all of those tools and devises they use to measure their age are all just gimmicks too.

    Tricky little bastards.

  • Fisherman
    Fisherman

    Abstain?

    [(Acts 15:28, 29) For the holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to you except these necessary things: 29 to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols, from blood, from what is strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you carefully keep yourselves from these things, you will prosper. Good health to you!”- NWT]

    It is believed that the above injunction to Christians was penned by the "beloved physician", Luke the Apostle. If a christian takes into his body a liter or so of human blood, could it be said that he was abstaining from blood?


  • Jonathan Drake
    Jonathan Drake

    @fisherman

    thing is, abstaining from blood is listed right along side abstaining from things sacrificed to idols.

    What was sacrificed to idols?

    a. Animals, meat.

    What did they do with it?

    a. Eat it.

    When it says to abstain, what is meant?

    a. Do not eat.

    so when it says upstain from things sacrificed to idols AND FROM BLOOD, what is meant?

    a. Do not eat sacrificial meat or blood.

    Easy reasoning. Yet Paul makes it clear later that eating sacrificial meat was acceptable because it lost its sacred meaning! So how much more so must blood be used to save a life, since sacredity of life was the point and life is always sacred!

  • sir82
    sir82
    Fisherman has just used, in compressed form, my "devil's advocate" objection.
  • Fisherman
    Fisherman

    Never allow a JW to muddy the waters by talking about risks.

    It is a fact that the reason JWs (as a church) abstain from blood transfusions is religious not medical. I already clearly posted that previously. No point in repeating it on every thread. JWs do not salute flags or advocate political sides either again for religious reasons with no medical consequences for those positions (except the risk of being killed or injured for their stand).

    Your claim that JWs use medical reasons as a "red herring" or to muddy the waters is false because as I have explained above ALL JW's know that their position is religious. In fact, anyone challenging JW position who has taken the time to read a "medical directive" form signed by JWs has read the reasons given by JW (to medical and government authorities) is religious. It is very interesting too that blood transfusions carry a risk of deadly infections and other medical risks. It is not intentionally misleading for JW's to make make that clear.

  • FayeDunaway
    FayeDunaway
    Yeah, without the transfusion, you'll die. But at least you will have avoided the risk of deadly infections or other medical risks.
  • Fisherman
    Fisherman
    Jonathan Drake

    That is your conclusion. JWs have theirs.
  • Jonathan Drake
    Jonathan Drake

    @fisherman

    amd that's the problem. It's not a conclusion. It's a fact. That is what was being spoken about, that is what they were referencing- actual consumption of blood. The Greek word used was to keep separate from, followed by blood being mentioned alongside eating sacrificial meet. It's not an interpretation. It's how it literally reads.

  • Fisherman
    Fisherman

    Yeah, without the transfusion, you'll die. But at least you will have avoided the risk of deadly infections or other medical risks.

    For medical reasons, under those extreme circumstances a person may reasonably? choose to take the risk of putting into his circulatory system quart(s) of another person's potentially infectious blood versus certain death. But JW position is religious.

  • Fisherman
    Fisherman

    It's not a conclusion. It's a fact

    Funny how you believe that your beliefs are facts because you say they are facts and because you believe they are facts. JWs disagree.

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