If you could ask one question to an active JW to get them to open their mind about their beliefs, what would it be?

by Franklin Massey 56 Replies latest jw friends

  • wobble
    wobble

    Butterfly above reminded me that I asked my sister what makes her believe it is the truth, she has been in for 67 years.

    All her reasons, it surprised me to find out, were emotional ,not doctrinal, I guess she has seen so many flip-flops and changes in doctrine she does not rate them too highly, the doctrine may change tomorrow.

    I asked my B.I L (her husband, in for50 years long time Elder) how I could prove to my sons that JW's/WT was God's Organization. All he could say was he would study the "Bible Teach" book etc. with them, convince them of the doctrine and that would convince them it was God's Org.

    He could offer no proof that it was. Those questions should have made them think, but I realise that after decades in the Borg they can no longer think.

  • Butterflyleia85
    Butterflyleia85

    wobble... yeah, that's kinda how it is for my family that are active and considered in good standing, but even the irregular ones have this thinking. They don't want to know, they just have their faith and belief (which is limited by JW control), and wish and pray for a miracle.

    Doctrines don't hold them... fear does.

  • bohm
    bohm

    Mine is a variation of OTWO's

  • Mad Sweeney
    Mad Sweeney

    It is the questions that gets them thinking again. Don't think they're worthless just because they don't turn on the lightbulb instantly. To steal a Borgism, "the light gets brighter." Just gotta keep on asking questions.

  • Franklin Massey
    Franklin Massey

    We were off to a good start but got sidetracked on some doctrinal issues. Pirata, thanks for starting that new thread.

    I'm looking at your responses and thinking of how I could use them. Many of the questions mentioned are ones that I myself had (proof that the WTS is God's org, issues with a global flood, extrapolation of Jesus words from the past to modern day). While these are interesting, do they get deep enough to really get the wheels turning? Do they plant seeds (good analysis, whataburger)? Remember the type of mindset that we're dealing with.

    I also fully recognize that there is no silver bullet.

    Pirata said, "I think the only effective question is one that matches their existing dissapointment or issue OR is something that they have never heard before and will want to research." Agreed. That means we have to be good listeners so as to recognize an opportunity when one arises.

    A couple of you described questions that could lead to further questions. That's good. Start simple and broad, and let the conversation take a natural course. Allow the other person to choose their answers and then lead them to the next logical and rational question.

    IMHO, the most effective question I have seen so far was one posed in Butterfly's post above. "What makes our set of beliefs more right than everyone elses?" The reason I like this is because it is broad enough to open the door to a number of follow up questions based on the response of the answerer. You cold pose this question in a very unassuming way. Unlike starting with a specific doctrinal issue that may raise a red flag about some "problem" you have with WT teaching, or that could quickly be stonewalled by a clever twist of JW logic, this question has a more universal, open minded sound to it. A possible scenario starter:

    FM: I was informal witnessing (nice, right?) to a Muslim guy at work last week and he said that our religion had some really nice similarities to Islam. He was raised Muslim and is very devout. Any question I asked him, he could answer with confidence. It got me thinking, are our religions really that different on a fundamental level? I mean, how do we really know that we are right and they are wrong?

    From here, it could go in many different directions. For instance:

    A: We have what they don't have in the faithful and discreet slave. Jesus said in Matthew that they would be the ones to provide our spiritual food at the proper time. They have been doing that since 1914.

    FM: The thing I don't quite get is, why do some of truths change? The JWs of the 1914 era are really different than us today. There's no way we would teach (insert wild doctrine, faulty prophecy, bold claim) today. We know that's wrong.

    A: ...light gets brighter...

    FM: That's true sometimes. But Jesus said, "food at the proper time." Do you think that he approved of, or even directed the slave in, dispensing innacurate teachings? How could teachings like (take your pick from the buffet of wackiness) be considered the type of thing that Jehovah and Jesus would be pleased with? I have had a little trouble figuring that out.

    A: Imperfect men sometimes make mistakes in the way they understand things. We need to focus on the good things that we know to be true now.

    FM: Agreed. And I know the early JWs meant well and were very zealous. They thought they had the truth about those things then. It makes me wonder though, what don't we know now? I think about that guy I work with. He means well and is very zealous. His religious leaders have made mistakes too but there are many moral and ethical teachings in Islam that we would consider to be true. If we just focused on those good things, then could the teachings of Islam be considered "truth?" I just feel like like I'm being unfair pointing out the things that I think are wrong about other religions, then writing them off as "untrue" when we have had our fair share of mistakes too. That's why I wonder sometimes, how do we really know that we have the truth?

  • Lion Cask
    Lion Cask

    There will be one question, honestly answered, that can open the door just a tiny crack, after which further questions that might have been initially dismissed could be given some reticent consideration. The challenge is to find that one question because it will not be the same for everyone. The one I would try first is:

    If the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society is not what it represents itself to be, would you want to know?

    If the answer is "no" (or some variation of denial), I might be inclined to point out the blindness of faith and move on in search of another question. If the answer is "yes", the dialogue will have begun.

    Interestingly, I have asked this very question of my wife but she has so far declined to answer and I have not pressed it. I take the lack of an answer as possibly a good thing, albeit a very small good thing. I will leave the question to lay fallow in her mind for a time before I ask it again.

  • Lion Cask
    Lion Cask

    One I like a lot is the question that worked for Seven006, which he reported in his 'Two Week Consulting Trip' thread. His experience over the previous couple of weeks unlocked the door but it was this question that caused it to open up:

    "Do you really and honestly believe that the whole world is in a world of shit, because a talking snake, told a naked lady, to eat a piece of fruit"?

    It is a very, very long post but worth the time for anyone interested in what caused one particular Witness to break free. http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/scandals/64463/1/Repost-My-Two-Week-Consulting-Trip-to-Bethel

  • Ice cream
    Ice cream

    If the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society is not what it represents itself to be, would you want to know?

    Great question Lion Cask!

    Before my parents completely shunned me i asked my mother

    'If the watchtower governing body is god's FDS, dispensing food at the proper time, when is the proper time to teach error?'

  • TTWSYF
    TTWSYF

    How come you go door to door with a Catholic book?

    If I've one question, that's it.

    respectfully,

    DC

  • The Finger
    The Finger

    I think a person has too have a real desire to question. Whether it be for God or whether it be to remain as they as they are. If they have no desire but are happy as they are hopefully God in his mercy will forgive them.

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