Of serious concern

by sabastious 33 Replies latest jw friends

  • sabastious
    sabastious

    Misery,

    The problem ultimately is that people are always going to break the rules, but that's known and usable data to solve the more specific problems with. With current data would you say that it is worth the lives lost to enjoy personal transportation? I am a responsible driver, but that comes at a cost. For every responsible driver there are X amount of reckless drivers. They are the Yin to my Yang and must exist.

    So what do we do? I'm honestly asking that question because I don't have an answer but have ideas, many ideas. As it stands loss of life due to traffic violation is an epidemic in this world. Why do we stand idle by?

    -Sab

  • sabastious
    sabastious
    The illusion of immortality especially among younger folk or those who are promised life forever.

    We need to find out who thinks that they're immortal and take their f*cking keys away.

    -Sab

  • miseryloveselders
    miseryloveselders

    Misery,

    The problem ultimately is that people are always going to break the rules, but that's known and usable data to solve the more specific problems with. With current data would you say that it is worth the lives lost to enjoy personal transportation? I am a responsible driver, but that comes at a cost. For every responsible driver there are X amount of reckless drivers. They are the Yin to my Yang and must exist.

    So what do we do? I'm honestly asking that question because I don't have an answer but have ideas, many ideas. As it stands loss of life due to traffic violation is an epidemic in this world. Why do we stand idle by?

    -Sab

    I don't think there is an answer on this. This is one of those moments that several years ago I would have told you to wait on Jehovah LOL. Bad taste, I know, I know. But seriously, there is no answer to stop the yangs or other odd ball events that happen on this planet. I love Transformers, and there's a story you should check out. It's Transformer Spotlight: Shockwave. Its perfectly in harmony with what we're discussing. I'll post a few paragraphs from the Trans-Wiki summary on this.

    "Six hundred thousand "Meta-Cycles" [sic] ago, while the Great War on Cybertron raged, the Decepticon Shockwave foresaw that the incessant fighting between Autobots and Decepticons would cause an energon crisis which would have a devastating effect on the planet itself. Acting alone, Shockwave commenced a project he called 'Regenesis', distilling raw energon and loading it aboard missiles which he sent to various planets, one of which was pre-Ice Age Earth.

    "Much later", after the last Ice Age was done and mammoths were dying off as a result, Shockwave traveled to Earth to regulate the planet's wild energon reactions. Unbeknownst to the Decepticon, the Dynobots had tracked him to the planet. During the war, the Dynobots had lost face to Shockwave after he had foiled a vital energon-gathering mission, and all five Transformers were hungry for revenge.

    The energon reaction on Earth's surface was causing energy fluctuations dangerous to unshielded Transformers. Shockwave was prepared, but the Dynobots had no protection. Slag's novel solution involved using the CR chambers of their ship, the Skyfire, to re-design the Dynobots' secondary modes to resemble native animals; the alt-modes' synthetic flesh would act to buffer the Energon radiation. When Grimlock rejected Earth's Ice Age mammalian lifeforms, Slag discovered fossilized remains of dinosaurs, to which Grimlock immediately took.

    As he goes about his business, Shockwave observes that Earth is in a state of environmental flux, and species who evolved in the cold temperatures are unable to survive in Earth's warmer climates, let alone understand their predicament. Shockwave finds many parallels to Cybertron's current condition. The Transformers are unknowingly destroying their world. To survive, they must evolve, and those who cannot change will die. Regenesis will insure that the Transformers will be able to survive on other worlds, and will also allow Shockwave to control the balance of power.

    The Dynobots located Shockwave on the surface and attacked him. Shockwave had anticipated that the Decepticons might come after him, but the Dynobots were completely unexpected. As the battle goes on, Shockwave realizes that this is about the energon raid he had been sent to clean up, and is further confused. With his core logic failing to be of any use in combating the Dynobots' irrational actions, Shockwave abandoned calculation and allowed a new primal sub-routine to take over. In a synthetic form of rage, he brutally retaliated against the Dynobots, quickly stripping them of their protective synthetic flesh and thus forcing them into stasis lock. With mental effort Shockwave returned his neural cortex to normal operations and prepared to steal the Skyfire (his ship had been disabled/destroyed by the Dynobots), but before he could do so, the Dynobots' ship acted on a command pre-programmed by Grimlock and fired upon a nearby volcano. The blast cracked the earth open, spilling Shockwave and the Dynobots into a pit of molten lava. "

    The thing that makes this spotlight interesting is that Shockwave is the epitome of intelligence. He calculates and plans everything, and there is nothing that he's not prepared for, until attacked by the Dynobots. To me its the same thing with traffic accidents and other anomalies. We can enact as many laws as you'd like, act on all of your ideas, but nothing on this planet is foolproof. You'll ultimately lose your mind if you think you can eliminate tragic events such as you described Sab. The bible doesn't even give Jehovah the credit of knowing Satan would make a play on Eve in the form of a snake. Nothing is certain bruh, nothing.

  • sabastious
    sabastious
    To me its the same thing with traffic accidents and other anomalies. We can enact as many laws as you'd like, act on all of your ideas, but nothing on this planet is foolproof. You'll ultimately lose your mind if you think you can eliminate tragic events such as you described

    Statements like "nothing on this planet is foolproof" are interchangeable with statements like "wait on Jehovah." I mean no disrespect misery, but these statements are merely platitudes. Of coruse I don't intend on eliminating tragic events. Such would be a foolish endeavor since the day tragic events stop happening it will not be of my doing, it will be the will of the people of the Earth.

    What I would love to see is more proaction taken against traffic deaths. I can't speak for anyone outside my area, but where I live senseless traffic deaths are nothing uncommon. Maybe I should take it up with my local government.

    -Sab

  • sabastious
    sabastious

    Well said jiyuu2.

    -Sab

  • miseryloveselders
    miseryloveselders

    What I would love to see is more proaction taken against traffic deaths. I can't speak for anyone outside my area, but where I live senseless traffic deaths are nothing uncommon. Maybe I should take it up with my local government.

    But how, what do you expect to accomplish? This is one of those moments where "everything that can be invented has been invented." What are your ideas, Sab?

  • sabastious
    sabastious
    But how, what do you expect to accomplish? This is one of those moments where "everything that can be invented has been invented." What are your ideas, Sab?

    Well before I can even make a claim I have to verify it is valid. I believe that people drive too recklessly in my area... so how could I prove this? According to this blog there were 3,081 traffic fatalities in 2009 within the borders of California. The population of my state is around 30 million. That means that traffic fatalities are pretty damn low as a ratio of death to total population. So what does that tell me? It tells me that reckless driving is not causing a lot of deaths.

    Does the sleuthing stop there? I think it might for some, but 3,000 people is still a lot of people. The question is: Are 3,000 deaths a year just Cause and Effect taking it's course? What is the moral value of 3,000 souls lost due to our personal transportation system?

    Growing up, I have always been told that driving is a privilege and not a right. Well I have never seen that clear cut line... people own their vehicles and that gives them a since of pride. The way I have heard many talk they do not speak of their vehicle (and their drivers licence, by implication) as a right. Think about how people react when their licence is revoked due to old age? Driving, by our perception, seems like a right rather than a privilege.

    I think that is where the problem could very well lie.

    About a year ago I was getting out of my car in a supermarket's parking lot. I heard a screech in the distance as I looked across the lot to see a 1998 red mustang tear through the lot at about 35 miles per hour. This person did not consider their drivers licence a privilege! That would take some humility. This was a packed lot with hundreds of cars and people, someone could have been easily hit if they were out of the driver's line of sight and came into view at the wrong time.

    I seriously thought about walking in front of their car, waving them down, then pulling them out of their car and beating the living shit out of them. Then take their licence out of their wallet and give it to the nearest police officer.

    -Sab

  • miseryloveselders
    miseryloveselders

    I seriously thought about walking in front of their car, waving them down, then pulling them out of their car and beating the living shit out of them. Then take their licence out of their wallet and give it to the nearest police officer.

    -Sab

    Sab Sab, whoa!! Bruh LOL. I know what I'm about to type is completely hypocritical, but I have to type it.....you've got some anger issues man. Your opening post you wanted to find out where they were holding the 21 year old driver, and you wanted to beat the living shit out of some random cat in a parking lot.

  • sabastious
    sabastious
    Sab Sab, whoa!! Bruh LOL. I know what I'm about to type is completely hypocritical, but I have to type it.....you've got some anger issues man. Your opening post you wanted to find out where they were holding the 21 year old driver, and you wanted to beat the living shit out of some random cat in a parking lot.

    I'm an ex-jw of course I have anger issues.

    -Sab

  • Broken Promises
    Broken Promises

    Does your county/state/country run commercials showing what happens if you speed or drink drive?

    Here in Australia (and in other countries like the UK) we often have ads showing the consequences of speeding/drink driving etc. They can be graphic in order to wake people up to the dangers of being stupid on the road.

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