Of serious concern

by sabastious 33 Replies latest jw friends

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  wobble

  What I am still surprised at, here in the U.K is the leniency of sentences, if you kill anybody by any other means the law comes down on you pretty hard, but use a car and you get a slapped wrist.

  Harsher sentences do work, look at the places around the World that use them ,for other offences than driving ones usually, but the incidences of the crimes that are targetted being commited are very low.

  A message needs to be sent out that if you drive badly ,it could cost you your liberty for a very long time, that would reduce offences I am sure.

  The other problem we have here is lack of policing, Traffic Cops are as rare as Rocking- horse S**t, and so you can drive around like a loony, as one Pioneer does locally, with impunity.
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  sabastious

  I wonder how many traffic deaths happen in Iran

  -Sab
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  sabastious

  Here in Australia (and in other countries like the UK) we often have ads showing the consequences of speeding/drink driving etc. They can be graphic in order to wake people up to the dangers of being stupid on the road.

  I really don't think those work because most of the time the driver of the car was blacked out drunk. It's not hard for an individual to separate his/her drinking with the dead person who obviously drank more while sporting inferior intelligence.

  It's just too easy to mentally hurdle those efforts.

  -Sab
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  tec

  It could be harder to get your license. I know I could have (probably should have) failed my driver's test. But I was 6 months pregnant, nervous, and I'm sure that my instructor felt bad for me. He gave me the exact mark I needed JUST to pass, and a list of things that I needed to work on. He also instructed me a couple times during the test. Still, I've only ever been in one accident in 13 years, on a downhill icy road that was deemed to NOT have been my fault, although liability was mine.

  But there could also be programs you have to watch on the dangers and outcomes of speeding, unsafe driving, lack of seatbelts, etc. Those could be mandatory. Education is always going to be a help in countering dangerous behavior, but nothing is foolproof and accidents, even those caused by irresponsibility, are going to happen.

  Tammy
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  tec

  I also think there should be zero tolerance for ANY percentage of blood alcohol. You can currently have one or two beers (depending on your tolerance/size), but with every one or two beers you're still expected to be in the exact same frame of mind as stone cold sober? Each beer makes it easier for you to think that you are find and can have one more.

  NO drinking at all, and then driving, would cut back some of that human error, I think.

  Tammy
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  elderelite

  We cannot, and should not, stop these incidents from happening. I dont want to see anyone, especially innocent children, die needlessly, but its not moral to govern the affairs of others. That is the one lesson the WT should have taught all of us. If someone chooses to endanger themselves its on thier own head... I grant children are different but we cannot legislate morality... Its subjective and crosses a line the org has made me all to aware of...

  Whats the differance between seat belt laws and laws against sexual orientation..? You may argue seatbelts save lives but it takes very little to argue that legislating sexual behaviour could save lives as well... Its all a line i dont care to see crossed... Educate and respect peopkes right to be foolish.
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  trevor

  BTS "We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality"

  This is a contradictory statement that attempts to be factual and clever but falls short.

  Evasion of reality is a trick of the mind. We can never evade reality. If we are careful we may live a full life without a single accident. That would be our reality. We may escape the anticipated consequences of our actions but that does not mean we have evaded reality. We have simply beaten the odds.

  Sorry to be pedantic but it satisfies my overactive little brain.
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  sabastious

  We cannot, and should not, stop these incidents from happening. I dont want to see anyone, especially innocent children, die needlessly, but its not moral to govern the affairs of others. That is the one lesson the WT should have taught all of us. If someone chooses to endanger themselves its on thier own head... I grant children are different but we cannot legislate morality... Its subjective and crosses a line the org has made me all to aware of...

  Whats the differance between seat belt laws and laws against sexual orientation..? You may argue seatbelts save lives but it takes very little to argue that legislating sexual behaviour could save lives as well... Its all a line i dont care to see crossed... Educate and respect peopkes right to be foolish.

  I don't want to infringe upon anyones rights, elderite, but if a governmental policy could save the lives of the children while not infringing thr rights of the people? You can't tell me you wouldn't be interested.

  -Sab
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  sabastious

  Sorry to be pedantic but it satisfies my overactive little brain.

  Sometimes splitting hairs can be fun, but most of the time it just irritates the scalp.

  -Sab
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  sabastious

  NO drinking at all, and then driving, would cut back some of that human error, I think.

  My father-in-law and I were talking about this subject maybe a year ago. He told his stance and I thought it was profound. He brought up the point of alcohol tolerance in relation to it's impairing effects while driving. Some people are genetically intolerant to alcohol; society refers to them as "light weights." While at the same time people are also genetically tolerant to alcohol.

  This gave me an idea.

  Why isn't there a DMV provision for someone to take a controlled driving test several times under different levels of intoxication. Then you could quantify each person's tolerance level at that point in their life. If someone chose to take this test they could get a tag on their licence that gave their "Adjusted Blood Alcohol Limit."

  Lets face it, humans are partiers and they like their booze. So why not find the ones that can actually drive intoxicated and have them cart everyone around.

  -Sab