To our fading and in-suffering friends, status report please

by Mad Sweeney 21 Replies latest jw friends

  • Mad Sweeney
    Mad Sweeney

    If you're still in for the sake of others, how's it going? What specific plan are you working on to get your loved ones out so you can leave, too? How is that plan progressing? Have you set any dates for just how long you're going to put up with it all? Have you had any good (or bad) experiences helping others to see the truth about the Borg?

    Let us know how things stand please. Also, state whether you want or don't want input please. Something clear like, "I'd love to have more advice and tools to help me," or "mind your own freaking business!"

    We're here for you folks.

    By the way, if I can interject an opinion before you tell me myob, I think that second question I asked is important. If you don't have a plan, you don't have a chance.

  • Curtains
    Curtains

    I was given combatting mind control by steve hasan and found it very useful.

    I have also found myself defending and using the concept of intelllectual honesty in my contact with family. I've said I am not trying to change anyone's beliefs or cause problems for others by raising questions and issues but that I want to be honest with myself and others. At the end of the day we only have one life and I want to leave a legacy of being authentic in my dealings with family.

  • Mr. Falcon
    Mr. Falcon

    Oh it's going great! I've never been happier! I LOVE sitting through meetings feeling like a complete tool for wasting yet another 2-3 hours of my life listening to a moron drone on about something that has no relevance or handing out magazines that only end up in the householders kitchen trash can before you reach the end of the driveway.

  • Mad Sweeney
    Mad Sweeney

    So what's the plan, Hans?

  • J. Hofer
    J. Hofer

    i pretty much faded, my wife does not attend meetings with the rare exception of her family visiting. some JWs still talk to me, although pretty much everyone knows that i'm an atheist. i often visit my disfellowshipped sisters and my JW parents. i'm fine with the status quo. the WTS does not have any power over me, but still i know that i wont ever be able to remove it all from my life, because of family. i have several friends in a similar situation, which is great.

  • stuckinamovement
    stuckinamovement

    Resigned as an Elder, and have started phase 1 of my fading plan. Missed about 30% of the meetings this month and have skipped service the last 6 weeks. Have been brutally honest with my wife about where I stand with the org. Have set a deadline of July 1st for the completion of the fade. Hopefully will be out as a family by then. If not at least I will be out. Now that I have made my decision it is nice to know that I am driving this process and am in control. I figured that I have got to be able to live with myself and not be full of inner turmoil.

    It is tough, because there are good people within the org, but they are misled. It makes you want to grab them and shake the stupid blank look off of their faces, and tell them the real truth.

    SIAM

  • Mr. Falcon
    Mr. Falcon

    So what's the plan, Hans?

    I'm going to diligently serve the congregation, sell more books, neglect my family and give rousing talks that vindicate JW doctrine. I'm going to do this until one day I finally snap and end up in a padded cell. Because, like Neil Young sang, "It's better to burn out than fade away."

  • blondie
    blondie

    The most important thing about fading is to building a life away from the WTS: friends, activities, volunteering. Deliberately plan fun things during meeting times. See other people as more then devil-inspired demons. Don't drag it out though. Fading is for you and your escape. Your family may follow eventually. Just don't drown them in your I have seen the light rhetoric.

    Blondie, FadED not fadING

  • bafh
    bafh

    I'm fading. It's been nearly 2 years since I've been to a meeting not counting the Memorial or funerals. I plan on going to the Memorial again this year - although it will be out of town.

    I own a small business and travel a lot, plus I've been going through a depression and having some physical problems. So, all of that has made it easier to not go. I did have a conversation with my mom a few months ago that I'm just emotionally tired, and right now - I just don't care. Which is true. I'm not angry with the WTBS, or with anyone associated with it - I don't feel any obligation to "get people out" because I don't feel it is my right to interfere with their choice in worship. I'm also sort of on the fence about some things - the WTBS COULD be right about some things - who am I to say? I don't agree with their methods, and I can't take the constant talk about how everyone is going to die, and how awful everything is, but at the same time I don't have the emotional energy to make a decision about much of anything either. I guess I don't care if they are right or not.

    I have a little nephew that I'm really close to - and basically he is the reason I'm not more forthright with my views. I am not attending meetings, but I don't throw what I think in other people's faces either. I'm careful about what I say especially to my brother (nephew's dad) so that I'm not suddenly considered "dangerous." - it may happen anyway, but I'm not doing anything to give them reason to think that. I do have one friend who still thinks maybe I'll come back to meetings when I feel better. I haven't been straight out with her about not going back. She will figure it out soon enough.

    I am working on building a life outside, slowly but surely it is happening. I've started dating (sort of tough at almost 40!), and have starts to good friendships with some of the people I've worked with as clients. I do think a successful transition must include friends outside - it can be devestatingly lonely without them. I've started going to different Meetup groups in my area, which is a great casual way to meet new people who share a common interest. I most often attend photography groups.

    I had a friend tell me that I should be more bold - more authentic - about my stance. So I'd like feed back about that. Is fading inauthentic? I would argue that it is a process, and that if I'm not attending meetings, that is a pretty authentic move. I don't feel like I have to be in their face about what I think or don't think in order to be authentic. My actions speak for themselves, right?

    bafh

  • DesirousOfChange
    DesirousOfChange

    I had a friend tell me that I should be more bold - more authentic - about my stance. So I'd like feed back about that.

    Is fading inauthentic?

    I think it's all about what is right FOR YOU. It appears that many here didn't have the choice to fade. If you have the choice, and you are not trying to make a point to someone by DA yourself, then why crap in your own nest? Seems by fading, some have succeeded in accomplishing their need to escape out of the Org, while at the same time they have been able to maintain some normal relationship with those persons important to them who are still "in".

    If it works for YOU, why care what anyone else thinks.

    "Inauthentic"? That sounds like someone trying to manipulate you into making choices that you don't want to make.

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