I keep both in the trunk of my car just in case I need to do a number 2 while on the road.
Book of Mormon vs The Bible, which one should I choose?
by cyberjesus 21 Replies latest watchtower bible
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james_woods
The BOM is not a document comparable to the Bible. It describes an iron-age civilization on par with Greece or Rome at the height of their power and that civilization never existed. It is sheer fantasy.
Plus, you really have to read the history of what the Mormons themselves say about how the Book of Mormon came to be. It is not believable to a rational person.
Like TD says - at least the Bible has some historical significance even to most people who do not view it as the perfect and complete word of God.
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designs
whereami- LOL
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cyberjesus
JW: yes but the BoM considers itself an extension of the bible... So therefore you coudl say that it also has some historical value.... and the bible has books that contain zero historical value. and both of they claim to be inspired as a whole.....
What i am saying is that to believe the bible I have to just trust what it says about itself... the same criteria I need to read any book that claims the same.
Whereami: I need softer paper
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james_woods
JW: yes but the BoM considers itself an extension of the bible... So therefore you coudl say that it also has some historical value....
Yeah - historical value in the sense that it presents clues to the roots of the Mormon church.
What I was talking about was the angel Moroni supposedly delivering it on tablets that could only be deciphered by a sacred crystal, and the notion that there were great cities in N. America during ancient times, etc.
It is as crackpot as the early Watchtower writings, which - come to think of it - are also presented as extensions of the bible.
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TD
If some sort of grounding in reality is not important then couldn't we bring all sorts of other works of fiction to the table? Why not the works of Tolkein or Lewis? They were both deeply Christian men who wrote works of pure fiction loosely connected to the Bible via Christian theology. It's a lot more subtle with Tolkein, but it's still there
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RubaDub
I just find the whole Mormon thing creepy.
Being a JW, at least I know where most of the worts are in JW land.
I guess it's just some of the weird (IMO) Mormon practices (like a couple wearing only a sheet when they do that private blessing thing prior to marriage) and so many other mysterious things. And then you have your own bible, or book ... or extension of the bible ... or whatever you want to call the BoM delivered by two guys on a bike.
I don't know, I really don't know.
Rub a Dub
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james_woods
I just find the whole Mormon thing creepy.
No kidding.
I guess it's just some of the weird (IMO) Mormon practices (like a couple wearing only a sheet when they do that private blessing thing prior to marriage) and so many other mysterious things.
For me, it is more their history in the 1800s - early 1900s. Killing non-Mormon settlers in Utah. Sometimes killing simple wagon train travelers who were just passing through. Arranged plural marriages to child brides. Takeover of a state government.
The only religion in U.S. history that got so bad that the U.S. Government had to come down on them by force of law.
Maybe it is just JW holdover prejudice - but I simply cannot vote for Romney just on this basis - and there are of course others.
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Podobear
3 Nephi 13 v 13 "For thine is the Kingdom the power and the glory, forever and ever Amen..." supposedly penned in AD 34 and recorded in B.O.M
Forward to 1611 (congratulations 500 years of the KJ Bible): "For thine is the Kingdom the power and the glory, forever and ever Amen"
The only two sacred texts in the world that contain those words.
Did Moroni really pen those words?? or, did the Author of the B.O.M simply plaigarize from the KJ Bible?
Curious
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saltyoldlady
I could never get past the fact that the angel was called Moron with an i at the end. (I am the Great Moron, I am, I am.) Forgive my irreverence, the evil devil got into me.
The other day I read a quote by George Washington Carver that said "Love anything enough and it will speak to you." The more I read the Bible the more I desire to read it and the more I come to love it. It DOES speak to me - but this is a subjective thing impossible to pass on to anyone else. All one can do is urge them to try it.