by sabastious 33 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
Thank you so much for the elaboration, TD. I especially like your comparison between scheduled and emergency surgeries. You really expose the red herring fallacies of the Witness defense of their blood doctrine. Do you work within the medical community? You seem especially knowledgeable on the subject.
-Sab
Ask him, "What is 'current therapy' that is referred to in ... from Marvin Shilmer
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Under the Watchtower organization’s religious position Jehovah’s Witnesses CAN ACCEPT transfusion of blood under a pretext it calls “current therapy”.—( The Watchtower, published by Watchtower, December 15, 2000 p. 30)
Under “current therapy” Jehovah’s Witnesses can accept transfusion of autologous blood. During the course of a “current therapy” the patient’s blood is drawn, bagged and then transfused when they need it either perioperative or postoperative. This blood is kept at room temperature for about 6 hours. After that it is placed in a blood cooler. Under the “current therapy” doctrine Jehovah’s Witnesses can accept transfusions of autologous blood either during the surgical procedure (or whatever the “current therapy” is) and as part of postoperative recovery, not matter how long the postoperative recovery lasts.
Given this “current therapy” doctrine and that Jehovah’s Witnesses accept transfusion of whole autologous blood under the doctrine, is it true to tell the world that Jehovah’s Witnesses abstain from accepting transfusion of blood?
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RW,
I fail to understand your response.
What I describe above and what Watchtower's doctrine allows for, IS A BLOOD TRANSFUSION.
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6 months ago
Po?¢?lαιη V?ss?l writes:
-- “Why do you feel the need to be deceptive on this subject?”
My Response:
-- What have I said that is false?
-- Do you deny that Witnesses can accept transfusion of whole autologous blood so long as it is part of a “current therapy”?
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6 months ago
BAR- ANERGES writes:
-- “The “current therapy” statement is given in the context of medical therapies in which some medicine or treatment is added to an extremely small part of the patient’s blood.”
My Response:
-- Bar-anerges desperately needs to contact his nearest hospital liaison committee representative from Watchtower to be updated. Watchtower’s “current therapy” doctrine applies equally to radioisotope tagging of blood cells and hemodilution, both of which involve transfusion of autologous blood but the latter involves large amounts of transfused autologous blood.
6 months ago
-- In the case of hemodilution multiple units of blood can be drawn and held until the patient needs the blood transfused either perioperatively or postoperatively. The transfusion could occur within minutes, hours or even days after the blood is originally withdrawn without being “banked”, depending on how long the “current therapy” is in progress. Under Watchtower’s blood doctrine the Witness patient has the option of having the bagged blood remain connected to their body with external circuitry (tubing) or not to have it remain in a circuitry connected to their body. As the cited 2000 Watchtower article say, “A Christian must decide for himself HOW his own blood will be handled in the course of a surgical procedure, medical test, or current therapy.”—(Emphasis added)
-- Bar-anerges’ response is just plain wrong.
6 months ago
-- Under Watchtower’s blood doctrine Jehovah’s Witnesses can and do accept autologous blood transfusions. It is false to say otherwise, and I is telling that so many Jehovah’s Witnesses are unaware of this.
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6 months ago
by Rustic B
Jehovah’s Witnesses may receive whole autologous blood transfusions so long as it is part of a “current therapy.” Since nowhere does the WTS define “current therapy,” it is up the patient to make up his own mind. Notice in the text provided by Shadow Knight that there is no definition of the term “current therapy.”
So JW patients are left in confusion. Jehovah God allows a lab to withdraw an unknown quantity of blood, walk it down the hall to be mixed with other substances or to run tests on it, and later transfuse this blood back into the patient, provided it is "current."
But what exactly does this mean? Perhaps a JW can help.
Ask him, "What is 'current therapy' that is referred to in ... from Marvin Shilmer
I can't ask him anything, I am blocked now.
-Sab
Oh! Pehaps he'll google and find this discussion board.
