JWs want the medical community to RESPECT their beliefs

by sabastious 10 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • sabastious
    sabastious

    How can Jehovah's Witnesses demand respect from the medical community as regards to their refusal to take blood tranfusions? How could I ask my doctor, or anyone for that matter, to engage in my suicide? How could I ask anyone to take the life of my child?

    A Witness would scream at me for saying such things. They would firmly inform me that their are "safe alternatives" and they would be determined to utilize them to the full, but those are not the scanarios that I concern myself with.

    There are cases where the doctor on duty knows full well that without a blood transfution the patient will die, barring a miracle. So, in these cases, a Witness telling a doctor that they will not take blood under any circumstance is akin to asking the doctor to help them commit suicide. The same goes for a child that is dying. How can a Witness ask a doctor, or anyone, to take their child's life?

    Witnesses don't think about this stuff because it's real, but they don't want to see it. Hiding under the blankets and putting your fingers in your ears won't actually do anything but make you look like a coward and a fool.

    -Sab

  • Pika_Chu
    Pika_Chu

    There are cases where the doctor on duty knows full well that without a blood transfution the patient will die, barring a miracle. So, in these cases, a Witness telling a doctor that they will not take blood under any circumstance is akin to asking the doctor to help them commit suicide. The same goes for a child that is dying. How can a Witness ask a doctor, or anyone, to take their child's life?

    Exactly. If the whole point of the blood doctrine is to show appreciation for the sanctity of blood, and therefore life, then getting a transfusion to save a life would actually be showing more respect.

  • Pams girl
    Pams girl

    Ive worked in nursing. I feel so sorry for any doctor who has to come up against this ridiculous docturine, and fight to save the life of a child, when the parents seem happy to let them die. Disgusts me to the core. Christian love? BS.......

    Just before I severed the ties with the JWs, they were banging on about how lots of "worldy" doctors now realise their teachings on blood are much safer, and are adopting it...what a load of crap that is! Adopting a JW docturine...sounds so good for the organisation doesnt it. Idiots. Where the heck do they get that ridiculous stat from?

    This has given me a headache.

  • carla
    carla

    I've asked my jw this years ago as well, just gives the jw spin on it. I asked how jw's expect outsiders to 'respect' their beliefs yet they do not understand that their very beliefs do not respect my belief in the sanctity of life! Then I asked what Jesus meant when He said He expected mercy not sacrifice and got no answer.

  • sabastious
    sabastious
    Then I asked what Jesus meant when He said He expected mercy not sacrifice and got no answer.

    Making a Witness speachless is a flying success in my book. It means that you are forcing them to use their brain, and any time that happens it's a good thing.

    -Sab

  • Alfred
    Alfred

    Last year I had a falling out with my sister over this subject... she was quick to bring up how JWs were right all along and that more doctors are using the so-called "alternatives"... I stopped her cold when I asked her: "what alternatives were available in the 40's when the WT came up with this ridiculous doctrine?" I also pointed out that well over 75% of the world's population live in areas where these "alternatives" are NOT available... and even if they were, JWs in those areas probably wouldn't be able to afford these... so what what are JWQ's supposed to do? let their children die??? she responded with something ridiculous like that's what the resurrection is for or Jehovah knows what he's doing or some other ridiculous nonsense... it's no use...

  • sabastious
    sabastious
    she responded with something ridiculous like that's what the resurrection is for or Jehovah knows what he's doing or some other ridiculous nonsense... it's no use...

    Oh no you ran into the indoctrination wall!

    -Sab

  • steve2
    steve2

    Any clinician in the ED department knows from everyday clinical practice that there is absdolutely no blood-less alternative to blood transfusions for sudden and massive blood loss as in motor vehicle accidents.

    Planned surgery may well tolerate blood-less alternatives but medical emergencies do not. The JWs medicall illiteracy is dangerously unforgiveable given that it needlessly costs lives.

  • Slidin Fast
    Slidin Fast

    JWs believe that with the HLC and cell savers and blood alternatives that they are now safe from all harm. They think that whatever the medical problem

    the loving society will step in and all will be well. They get better faster than those that take blood. They just don't get it that their decision for themselves or

    their kids is life or death. People die? I have lost two family members, one 18 years of age from blood refusal. Now another young relative is being treated for

    breast cancer. When will it end? How many lives?

  • Justitia Themis
    Justitia Themis

    There are cases where the doctor on duty knows full well that without a blood transfution the patient will die, barring a miracle. So, in these cases, a Witness telling a doctor that they will not take blood under any circumstance is akin to asking the doctor to help them commit suicide

    While I am no fan of the blood ban, the above is a false analogy. A patient has the full right to decide his or her medical treatment whether that be to take antibiotics or blood. Since it is not the doctor's decision, it is not his/her responsibility.

    Under such a false analogy, one could argue that any patient who ultimately said no more chemotherapy was asking his or her doctor to "help them commit suicide."

    People have the right to make their own medical decisions, even stupid ones. With this said, the issue of children I see quite differently.

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