Could recently discovered codices prove once and for all that Jesus died on a cross?

by truthseeker 25 Replies latest jw friends

  • stapler99
    stapler99

    It doesn't need to be proved. No one outside the Jehovah's Witnesses entertains the possibilty of him having died on a single plank or pole.

  • stapler99
    stapler99

    It doesn't need to be proved. No one outside the Jehovah's Witnesses entertains the possibilty of him having died on a single plank or pole.

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    The WBT$ will instantly get New Light..

    With the "WBT$ Overlapping Pole" Teaching..

    Yes Jesus Died on a Stake..

    But..

    There were 2 and they OverLapped..

    The "WBT$ Overlapping Pole" Teaching will Prove..

    The WBT$ has the..

    RUTH

    ....................... ...OUTLAW

  • Mr. Falcon
    Mr. Falcon

    I decided to test the waters a little. I got home yesterday and told my wife about the story. I was careful to mention that I read the story from the BBC, so she wouldn't think that it's just some sensational apostate gibberish. Faking deep concern, I told her that if this is proven true it will make us look pretty stupid as an organization. Her response was pretty typical JW (unfortunately, I held out hope). She said "Do you really think that Jehovah would let them find something like that?" My jaw hit my shoes. So God is covering his tracks now? Is that what she's implying? It's like that scene in Goodfellas where they killed Billy Batts and 6 months later had to dig up his body because they were getting ready to build something on that property. God's apparantly going to slip out there at night and "remove" the evidence.

    Then she fell back on the last refuge of a closed-minded JW: the "what does it matter what he died on" defense. Tried and true. JWs are incapable of thinking independantly or deeply about things, so the minute heavy questions start to fly, they stick their heads in the sands of ignorance. When I explained that it IS a big deal because if (IF) it is proven true, then a lot of what we teach would come into question.

    Well, she then went to the second typical JW response: the "turn the tables guilt trip" defense. She tells me that it seems like I don't have faith in what we believe. At this point I realized that I'd better back off alittle. Don't want to stir the bee hive just yet. But this little experiment was interesting to me if we can use it as a guage for what the typical JW response will be if this find turns out to be the smoking gun.

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    Mr.Falcon..

    If this all proves true..The WBT$ may ignore the Truth..Like 607 BCE..

    Or..

    They could Spin it,so they look like they were right all along..

    "See!.....We told you it wasn`t a Cross!"..

    "Now we have New Light that shows it was a T-shape"..

    The WBT$ can do or say,whatever they want..

    Jehovah`s Witness`s will accept it either way..There is No Thinking involved..

    Just Blind Obedience..

    ....................... ...OUTLAW

  • worldtraveller
    worldtraveller

    Why is it more important as to how he died as opposed to why he died?

  • Ding
    Ding
    Why is it more important as to how he died as opposed to why he died?

    I've asked this question of a number of JWs.

    I've never gotten an answer.

    Early WT literature had crosses on them.

    Rutherford changed that.

    I believe the real reason he did so was to manufacture an issue he could use to give JWs a sense of superiority over and isolation from "Christendom" -- "truth" JWs have that the pagans of Christendom don't.

    As Outlaw said, it's all a part of the blind obedience the WTS demands -- "truth" is whatever the GB says it is.

  • shamus100
    shamus100

    Jehovahs Witnesses have the biggest rafter sticking out of their eyes imaginable. This is just one of the slivers poking out of that rafter.

    Big deal out of nothing -

    Terry,

    They need a new advertising agent. The current advertising isn't working anymore, and a complete re-do is in order. I suggest getting Don Draper on this post-haste. ;D

  • scary21
    scary21

    I asked a JW once" what does it matter if Jesus died on a cross or a stake" Answer ....Jehovah would never let his son die on a Pagan symbol......case closed !

    Sherry

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW
    Answer ....Jehovah would never let his son die on a Pagan symbol......case closed !

    The Romans were Pagan..

    Jehovah`s Witness`s are WatchTarded..

    ....................... ...OUTLAW

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