In an argument over science and religion, science wins every time!

by Star tiger 14 Replies latest jw friends

  • metatron
    metatron

    And you think you can have "social structure" without myths and fantasy? Really?

    I see the same sort of arrogant assertion and self assurance in atheism as I did in religion. We have all the answers and other nonsense.

    I see 'religionless' cultures that can't even make babies - needed if they are to survive competition from ignorant religious cultures. Is Israel unable to reach a peace agreement because the Orthodox fanatics make the babies? And the Muslims in Europe?

    The only atheistic culture of long standing I know of are Buddhist nations - although you might argue about how real their atheism is. They are stagnant and their 'progress' looks to be consistent with the pallative nature of the religion. Their 'Johnny come lately' technological progress was triggered by competition with Western ( nominative Christian) economies, not the wellsprings of their own culture.

    Why did the Soviets give way to a resurgent Russian Orthodox culture? How could such irrationality prevail?

    You have no God to protect you or insure the outcome. NOTHING has to happen or succeed. Nothing has to endure or even progress.

    The idea that atheism leads to people running naked in the streets, having orgies and being wanton is naive, as is any assured progress.

    It just goes nowhere. Nothing much happens. No myths. Enjoy, die, that's that. Ho-hum.

    metatron

  • NomadSoul
    NomadSoul

    Okay, sure.

  • NomadSoul
    NomadSoul

    You're saying because there are no succesful atheist societies that it's not going to work? That's because religion hasn't given atheism to flourish. It is my believe with this modern age of science that an atheist culture will rise and dominate the world. It's not going to be in our lifetimes but it's in the future.

    In my opinion.

  • nicolaou
    nicolaou

    Sorry Metatron, society does not need myths, it needs VISION! An example of what I mean is the large hadron collider at CERN. This massive project took vision to bring to reality, all to look for answers.

    I get what you are saying, gods and myths have served society for millenia but we need to grow up.

  • NomadSoul
    NomadSoul

    Nicolaou, Rep +1

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