repentance is often not enough...

by oompa 26 Replies latest jw friends

  • mouthy
    mouthy

    OOMPA Great to see you again. Sorry about the boy. but go easy on him

    Give him hugs,I know men dont do that too often,but he really needs a sign of GREAT
    LOVE!!!!He has all the teachings of the cult in his head. it takes a lot of time to weed
    the brain after it has been captured for so long... Hope you well mate!!!! Missed ya.

  • thetrueone
    thetrueone

    DFing people by elders does much to reconfirm their own power and authority in their spoken congregations.

    A little pumping up the the male ego and personal stature goes a long way for some of these guys.

    Power is the elixir of life.

    Take a retrospective look at how many lies of disingenuous mis-information have come out of the mouths of the leaders

    of this religion ( Literature Publishing Company ), right from its very beginging.........just to prove my point

  • FlyingHighNow
    FlyingHighNow

    Well, Maybe you can do some work on his heart while he is dfd.

  • aSphereisnotaCircle
    aSphereisnotaCircle

    Hopefully this will wake up your son, Though i imagine he must be going through hell right now.

    I had a friend who on one occasion had sex with a MS.

    She immediately went to the elders and confessed all, they DFed her, repentence was not enough, they were concerned that she may have gotten pregnant, and if she had, then it would prove that the elders had taken care of the matter.

    The MS denied having sex with her, and because there was not two witnesses to the event, the MS got off scot free. (sorry, unintentianal bad pun)

    Thats love in action folks

  • jwfacts
    jwfacts

    apparently those are three strikes against you when you confess your sins 1. pioneer, 2. miniserve, 3. bethel lite....

    After bethel I travelled the world and then came back and confessed to some "sins". I was not d/f, just publically reproved. I think it depends on the elders. My father was a CO at the time, so maybe there was a bit of favouritism.

  • thetrueone
    thetrueone

    My father was a CO at the time, so maybe there was a bit of favoritism.

    Thats something else that I witnessed myself, who you were related to in the congregation

    seemed to have some bearing or relevance to how severe the punishment would be.

    My best friend who I associated with the most in my Hall, his dad was the PO and I'm pretty sure because of this he would

    get away with things that I'm sure others in the Hall would have received much harsher treatment.

    He was so self assured of this fact, that I remember when he got baptized, he lured me to go outside of the stadium

    where the Assembly was being held, to smoke a cigar in celebration of him getting Dunked.

  • jamiebowers
    jamiebowers

    Good to see you back on the board Oompa! It sounds like to me the elders wanted to take your son down a peg or two. Maybe he was showing up their sons??? Hopefully he'll learn the truth about the "truth" while he's out. I hope so!

  • ProdigalSon
    ProdigalSon

    He forgoes a college education to serve the Borg and they treat him like this? If it was my kid I would hit him with all the truth about the truth I could muster, and get him enrolled in college while he's still young. This is the best thing those pompous judgmental assholes could have done for him.

  • looloo
    looloo

    i knew a pioneer girl who had been in a "relatioship " for years with a much older married man (the elders knew he had abused a young girl who was underage in the cong before but reproved him !!!) the elders wanted to forgive her due to her genuine repentence , however the co overruled the decision because of the deceipt involved and 3 years it had gone on for ! she was disfellowshipped and so was he ! t hey eventually went on to be friends with me and he raped my daughter age 13 ! 15 years later she is a jw again but he is still out but "believes " and they have kids and he served a 3 year sentence for abusing girls in the cong years earlier before his disfellowshipping

  • oompa
    oompa

    i tried for years to wake my son and my wife up...it was a disaster...they refuse to reason at all and labeled me an apostate just like all the others...it pushed my wife deeper into the org. and my son got tired of hearing the real truths i shared...he still does not want to hear ANYTHING contrary to jw teachings and neither does my wife....i mean ZERO talk about the org. so i continue to show love to him...check on him...he is now out on his own and totally isolated for the most part...i am worried about him...........oompa

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