How do you explain to worldly people why Jehovahs Witnesses do not celebrate birthdays? (page 2)

MrFreeze

Oops, thought it said holidays. Birthdays... there really is no good explanation for that either.

VIII

Trying to explain it to someone who is totally clueless is hopeless. They will never get *IT*.

*IT* being a completely nutty reason: "It's pagan", "It's Worldly", etc.

It's a C-U-L-T

Joliette

Mrs. Jones, they sure do. And when I was little, I thought it was stupid. I'm like, why am I explaining this?

Does anyone remember this? Cult booklet.

Im celebrating my little boys 11th birthday this June, for the first time in 6 years. I cant wait! Ive got him so many presents just to catch up on the ones I missed and I cant wait to see his face light up.........x I love being a mum x

Paula x

cupcakekourtney88

Iamallcool

cupcake, to answer your question on the topic section, the answer is no.

J. Hofer

we had to personally give that dumb blue mag to our teachers... sick

WontLeave

I never pushed the birthday issue with my studies.

Using JW logic - if something bad happens in the Bible, anything else in the context becomes "guilty by association" - there are some interesting lessons in the 3rd chapter of Judges.

At that Jehovah let Eg′lon the king of Mo′ab grow strong against Israel - 3:12

So Jehovah raised up for them a savior, E′hud the son of Ge′ra, a Ben′ja·mite, a left-handed man. - 3:15

Now Eg′lon was a very fat man. - 3:27

Then E′hud thrust in his left hand and took the sword off his right thigh and plunged it into his belly. And the handle kept going in also after the blade so that the fat closed in over the blade, for he did not draw the sword out of his belly, and the fecal matter began to come out. - 3:21-22

So, Eglon was a Canaanite king who oppressed Jehovah's people and he was very fat. So, fat=bad. Ehud was Israel's hero, sent by Jehovah and he was left-handed. So, lefty=good.

The Governing Body has openly declared war on the individual. No focus can be shown to any person, ever (unless they were in a Nazi concentration camp or their name is changed, so you can't verify the phony story). A birthday party is all about the individual. All focus is on them that day. A cake has their name on it. A song is sung in their honor which also contains their name.

We can't have that, because everything is hive-minded. No independent thinking or actions are permitted. No independent study or even Bible reading is encouraged. Everything has to be OKed by the leaders of the group. Every thought and action has to be identical for everyone in the group or the group members will turn you in to the leaders of the group. Think of a flock of migrating birds, flying in formation. No deviation or individuality is allowed. You aren't a Christian; heck you aren't even a Jehovah's Witness anymore. No, you are "one of Jehovah's Witnesses", because you are not a person, but only a part of a group. You are merely a minuscule cog in the collective who would not be missed if you disappeared. The "Organization" grinds on to Paradise and you can ride its coattails there or you can go off on your own and die.

Meanwhile, the Governing Body can demand adoration, praise, and worship. But it's okay, because none of them are mentioned by name. They are a "class" and no individual is promoted.

WTWizard

Problem: They always have some stupid reason. You find that there are only 2 birthdays that they recognize, and in both of them someone gets their head cut off. They refuse to look past this. The same for Christmas--they call it worshiping the sun since 1927. Boozerford banned Christmas. I believe it was Knorr, in 1950, that banned birthdays.

To me, it is more about dorkhood than about the truth. You can't celebrate, that cuts you off from the community.

How do you explain to worldly people why Jehovahs Witnesses do not celebrate birthdays?