You're All A Bunch of Bitter Apostates - Really?

by Broken Promises 36 Replies latest jw friends

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  smiddy

  B.P.

  How can anyone half-beleive in JW`s ??

  1874 was the invisible presence of jesus Christ.....they later changed that

  1914 All the kingdoms of the world would be destroyed by God1919 No kingdom of the world has been destroyed by God,either then or now 2011

  1919 Jesus chooses C.T Russell and his followers as the F.D.S.class because their imparting the right food at the right time

  What were they teaching back then ?

  "Zions Watchtower and Herald Of Christs Presence " C.T.Russell was a Zionist

  The Watchtower began in 1879 and proclaimed Christ`s presence in 1874

  On the front page of this magazine was a Masonic symbol the Knights of the Templar

  C.T Russell was a Mason

  At that time they still celebrated christmas ,birthdays,easter,and USA political days

  If they reject all those things now,then Jesus Christ must reject them now,because he accepted them on what they taught in 1919

  You cant have it 2 ways

  smiddy
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  Broken Promises

  Thanks for your replies, guys.

  Smiddy, he is still mentally in I think. He admitted that they're no better than any other religions, but he still defends them like he's still one of them.

  Santina, you're right in saying that we're holding up a mirror to him. Later in the conversation he got verbally abusive and when I said I didn't appreciate being spoken to like that and that I was leaving the conversation, he called me a jw, lol. He can't accept that ppl have issues with the JWs and that we want to support each other.

  All this because I put a link to today's Sun Herald article on my facebook page!!

  (and he's a victim of sexual abuse himself - I pointed out to him he should be in favour of people trying to protect children!)
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  jean-luc picard

  Jehovahs witnesses are not allowed to be different. They must all think alike, act alike etc etc.

  Here on the forum, it is not like that. People can say what they think ( respectfully of course ). Your friend doesnt seem ready to fully appreciate that. So he interpretes that as biterness.

  I've been on the forum for two weeks. I feel better in myself ( Mrs Picard has noticed too). It has helped me a lot, not just to be able to have my say, but especially to read the experiences of other posters. Long live "freeness of speech"and individuality.
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  cantleave

  I'm happy, especially when I see how miserable the JW's are. I sit on their misery.............

  
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  sizemik

  I get upset at any single-interest group whose activities are harmful and damaging (just ask my family). When it comes to the JW religion, sure, I get a little more forthright in my opinions . . . but owing to the fact they harmed me and my family and kept us captive to a lie for over 25 years . . . well, let's just say it's an area of special interest to me . . . bitter? . . . I don't think so . . . more like redressing the balance
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  DagothUr

  This is probably one of the most free forums on the net. Jean Luc Picard, you have a sub-space message.
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  nugget

  I have moved on from the religion and I am in a happy place. I appreciate that others are not quite there yet and come here to be supportive and meet up with my friends. The anger and distress, the biterness and hurt are by products of the religion and are the fruits that they created these feelings are natural when someone has been bullied, oppressed, controlled and lied to. If this religion was benign and truly reflective of the christian ethic then people leaving would be regretful and sad but not angry.

  The fact that so many turn from religion completely is again solely due to them. Apostates are not people who didn't make the grade they are people who had the courage to stand up to a lie.
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  sizemik

  Apostates are not people who didn't make the grade they are people who had the courage to stand up to a lie.

  Well said . . . many here have, and continue to display, extraordinary courage
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  wobble

  I regret not having the life I could have had, I regret not making better provision for my twighlight years, I regret not having given my sons a better , normal, childhood.

  But I am not bitter, I am too happy being free to be bitter, and there is a bonus, just as the hungry man enjoys his meal more than the man who is full of food, I just love the life I have now, and really appreciate it, because of the comparison with life inside that spiritually arid, debilitating cult.
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  satinka

  Broken Promises wrote:

  Santina, you're right in saying that we're holding up a mirror to him. Later in the conversation he got verbally abusive and when I said I didn't appreciate being spoken to like that and that I was leaving the conversation, he called me a jw, lol. He can't accept that ppl have issues with the JWs and that we want to support each other.
  All this because I put a link to today's Sun Herald article on my facebook page!!
  (and he's a victim of sexual abuse himself - I pointed out to him he should be in favour of people trying to protect children!)

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  Amazing response from your friend. Perhaps he is coming to terms with his own vulnerabilities and doubts about the JWs. Sorry to hear about the sexual abuse; it’s a painful thing to try and suppress. No matter how hard a person tries to suppress abuse, it still runs one’s life in the background. The whole thing could get quite interesting!

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  Sizemik wrote:

  bitter? . . . I don't think so . . . more like redressing the balance

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  I agree that upon leaving, a balance must be found. Often that means swinging wa-a-a-a-a-y over in another direction before a balance could be found. Especially true of a religion that sets us up to fail upon leaving.

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  Nugget wrote:

  Apostates are not people who didn't make the grade they are people who had the courage to stand up to a lie.

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  Well said… I gotta remember that! It's a brilliant statement!

  I must remember too, that no matter how much I miss my kids, I am definitely better off outside of the cult. My quality of life has improved immeasurably.

  A very encouraging thread!

  satinka

  Geez! What is wrong with the formatting??? I've tried three times to use the quotes styles and different font sizes and when I post my comments, they go wonky...