Christians — Eating Blood Sausage

by Marvin Shilmer 26 Replies latest jw friends

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  slimboyfat

  10 Light also shone on the sanctity of blood. Some Bible Students thought that the prohibition against the eating of blood, at Acts 15:28, 29, was limited to Jewish Christians. However, Acts 21:25 shows that in apostolic times this command was also applied to those of the nations who became believers. So the sanctity of blood applies to all Christians, as shown in TheWatchtower of July 1, 1945. That means not just refusing to eat animal blood, as in blood sausage, but also abstaining from human blood, as in the case of blood transfusions.

  It speaks for itself.
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  Marvin Shilmer

  Slimboyfat writes:

  “It speaks for itself.”

  Indeed that is the case. Unfortunately for you, it is not a statement, as you have proposed, suggesting that in 1945 there was “new light” teaching or even clarifying that Christians should not literally eat blood. Watchtower teaching that Christians should not literally eat blood was in place for nearly 20 years prior to 1945, and this was not changed or clarified in 1945.[1-2] In 1945 Watchtower repeated that Christians should not literally eat blood and reiterated its new teaching (as of 1944) that treated transfusion of blood with literally eating blood.

  Get your facts straight, and for goodness sakes stop making a dad-blame fool of yourself!

  Marvin Shilmer

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  References:

  1. “LIFE SACRED…. The flood having ended, Noah and his family came forth from the ark. Noah builded an altar and offered his burnt offerings of beasts and fowls thereupon unto the Lord. Then God blessed Noah and his sons and commanded that they should be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth. At the same time God entered into a covenant with Noah, which covenant included every living creature; and that covenant is designated by the Lord: "The everlasting covenant." It was on that occasion that God declared his law concerning life. It is manifest from the record that Noah and his offspring have ever since claimed some of the benefits of the covenant made on that occasion, and therefore Noah and all his offspring are bound by all the terms of the covenant…. God told Noah that every living creature should be meat unto him; but that he must not eat the blood, because the life is in the blood.”—(The Watchtower, Dec. 15, 1927 p 371)

  2. “As stated in Genesis 9: 3-13, the covenant reads: “Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things. But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.” Thus seen, God gave man the right to eat flesh for food, but he must not eat the blood. The life principle is in the blood ; and since life is a sacred gift, man must not eat the blood.”—(The Watchtower, Nov. 1, 1930 p 334)
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  Earnest

  Slimboyfat writes:

  “The Watchtower in English had only made scant references to how the biblical prohibitions on eating food with blood should be applied by the early 1940s. Do you know if they also appeared in the German Watchtower and at what time?

  Marvin Shilmer writes (after providing scant references to how the biblical prohibitions on eating food with blood should be applied):

  Get your facts straight, and for goodness sakes stop making a dad-blame fool of yourself!

  The facts are that a group of about 25 Bible Students at Ravensbruck concentration camp refused to accept blood sausage with their rations. It's rather difficult to prove the negative, namely that nothing appeared in German literature prior to the policy on blood transfusions, but the fact that the objection was limited to so few suggests that to be the case. The implication that the great majority were prepared to compromise something they believed is completely at odds with the fact that they were in the concentration camps in the first place.

  If you do not know whether these references appeared in the German Watchtower prior to this time then why not say so rather than describing slimboyfat's contributions as "crap" and attempting to ridicule him.
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  minimus

  Interesting discussion.

  Marvin asserts many things and when he loses arguments he ridicules. But, we should accept what he says because he is the resident Blood Expert.
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  metatron

  I can recall from SS/Gestapo documents, exposed after the war, that Nazi authorities viewed Witnesses as fanatics who sought increased merit from God by seeking suffering. I think they viewed them as often lusting after martyrdom.

  They also wanted to export Witnesses to conquered lands to pacify the populations.

  metatron
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  Marvin Shilmer

  Earnest writes:

  “If you do not know whether these references appeared in the German Watchtower prior to this time then why not say so rather than describing slimboyfat's contributions as "crap" and attempting to ridicule him.”

  The material cited from 1927 is a banner article in The Watchtower. We have no reason to think this article was not published in all editions of The Watchtower and every reason to assume that was the case. Do you or Slimboyfat have some reason to think this article was not published in German for distribution in Germany? Do you or Slimboyfat have some reason to think English speaking Watchtower officials and missionaries in Germany were unaware of this material?

  Slimboyfat’s contribution here that I depict as “crap” is so-called because it is nonsense.

  Minimus writes:

  “Marvin asserts many things and when he loses arguments he ridicules.”

  As usual, Minimus writes nothing original yet never fails to continue as resident fool.

  Metatron writes:

  “I can recall from SS/Gestapo documents, exposed after the war, that Nazi authorities viewed Witnesses as fanatics who sought increased merit from God by seeking suffering. I think they viewed them as often lusting after martyrdom.”

  Witnesses of the era relished persecution as an authentication of their Christianity.

  Marvin Shilmer
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  Peaches1978

  Blood sauage is delicious in deed, i had some this weekend with green bananas and a beer...