"The Secret of Family Happiness": Wat...

by Focus 11 Replies latest jw friends

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  Focus

  "The Secret of Family Happiness": Watchtower Style

  All emphases have been added by Focus.

  Eastie man held in wife's strangling
  Source: Boston Herald
  Arrival time: 2002-02-04

  A nasty custody battle and divorce turned deadly in East Boston when a city tow truck driver strangled his wife with a necktie and then fled to a New Hampshire ski resort where the couple vacationed and tried to kill himself, officials and sources said.

  "He just wanted to stay in the house with his kids," said a close friend of Kevin Hensley. "I think it just got too overwhelming for him and he didn't know what to do and this is what happened."

  Hensley, a 55-year-old Boston Transportation Department employee, allegedly strangled his wife, Nancy, in the family's Byron Street home Thursday afternoon. The couple, who have four kids, were in the midst of a bitter divorce that began just three weeks ago when Nancy Hensley, 45, tossed her husband out of the house and got a restraining order against him.

  According to police, the couple's oldest daughter made the grim discovery in the basement of the home around 2:15 p.m. and called 911, saying that her mother was unconscious and her head was covered. A source said Hensley was strangled with a necktie.

  Kevin Hensley, described by friends and neighbors as a hard-working father, was not at the home when police arrived. Thursday night, Waterville Valley police officers found Hensley unconscious in his wife's 2000 Buick LeSabre. A source said he attached a hose to the exhaust pipe and stuffed it in the window in an apparent suicide attempt.

  He was taken to a local hospital where he recovered and was arrested by New Hampshire state police on a Bay State warrant charging him with his wife's slaying. He was ordered held without bail after a hearing yesterday in Plymouth (N.H.) District Court. He is due back in that court Feb. 28 but prosecutors hope to bring him back to Massachusetts sooner to face the murder charges, Suffolk County District Attorney's Office spokesman David Procopio said.

  Kevin Hensley's friend, who didn't want his name used, said the couple used to vacation at the New Hampshire ski resort.

  "Waterville Valley was a place where he and Nancy would go in happier times," the friend said. "He just went there and was trying to remember the happy times."

  The friend said Hensley was "embarrassed" when he was served with a restraining order last month at work. He described the Hensleys as "the perfect couple" and said they "fought no more than anyone else."

  In court papers, Nancy Hensley claimed her husband was "violent," verbally abusive and once punched a hole in a wall. She also said he recently spied on her at a local gym, sporting a phony beard and sunglasses.

  "I was at Bally's and he was there in disguise, with a fake beard and sunglasses, stalking me for 45 minutes," she wrote in a court affidavit obtained by the Herald. "Then he seen (sic) me speaking with someone for 3 minutes and he came over and verbally abused me and left. I stayed out for a while going food shopping because I was afraid to go home."

  She also alleged that he violated the restraining order several times by going to the Byron Street home. The divorce and a motion to extend the restraining order were still pending but the case was moved out of Suffolk County to Middlesex County because Nancy Hensley's sister worked as a secretary for the Suffolk judge assigned to the case, court papers show.

  Kevin Hensley's friend said

  Nancy Hensley was a recently converted Jehovah's Witness and claimed that "someone was guiding her in this (divorce)." "Someone was telling her what to do. I hope that person who guided her is happy now,"

  the friend said. Neighbors yesterday said the Hensleys appeared to be a happy family. Nancy Hensley often jogged and rode bicycles with their daughters, ages 20 and 10, while Kevin Hensley shot hoops and worked on the house with their sons, ages 17 and 6. In the summer, the family's swimming pool was filled with the children and their friends.

  Nancy Hensley, who was unemployed, was recalled by one female relative yesterday as a "good mother." Alice Norton, the Hensleys' 81- year-old wheelchair-bound neighbor, called Nancy Hensley a "beautiful person" who often stopped by to check on her.

  "She was a lovely, lovely lady," Norton said. "They're very nice people. I'm just shocked that this happened."David Weber contributed to this report.

  Publication date: 2002-02-02

  © 2002, YellowBrix, Inc. http://www.yellowbrix.com

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  While we do not have anything like all the facts, and with great sympathy to the family involved, and sorrow that the tragedy ever occurred - I boldly contend that the principles of Justice demand that the law be modified so that certain leaders (at the local and other levels) of the Jehovah's Witnesses Cult SHOULD BE CHARGED WITH MURDER, alongside Kevin Hensley. This man probably opposed the conversion, hated the evil done to the wife he loved, observed the huge deterioration in her life... and tried his best to persuade her to come out of the Whore.

  So he was considered bad association - and we know what the Watchtower publication "The Secret of Family Happiness" (1996,1998) says:

  ***fy 160-1
  GROUNDS FOR SEPARATION Are there situations that may justify separation or possibly divorce from a marriage mate even if that one has not committed fornication? Yes .. What are some extreme situations that may make a separation seem advisable? .. if a spouse constantly tries to force a marriage mate to break God's commands in some way, the threatened mate may also consider separation, especially if matters reach the point where spiritual life is endangered. The partner at risk may conclude that the only way to 'obey God as ruler rather than men' is to obtain a legal separation. -Acts 5:29.. mature friends and elders may offer support and Bible-based counsel .. if an extremely dangerous situation persists, no one should criticize her if she chooses to separate.. It is not true, as some assert, that Jehovah's Witnesses divide families.

  ABSOLUTE SPIRITUAL ENDANGERMENT...

  We can well guess what Kevin may well have gone through with the rabid one before he snapped. With grown-up kids, he did almost all the work, and she was an unpaid slave for the Watchtower who told EVERYONE how foolish, ignorant (or wicked and Satanic) they were and how they would be swiftly destroyed and .. You Know.

  Yet another Family utterly destroyed by the Watchtower, one can reasonably surmise.

  BAN THIS FILTHY, DISGUSTING, MURDEROUS FAMILY-DESTROYING VIRUS THAT MASQUERADES AS A RELIGION..

  One might say, the best greeting you can give that special knocker at your door is a bucket of water, liberally applied (and an apology for the accident, of course - but do take legal advice appropriate for your jurisdiction first, as jWs and the Watchtower itself, who all teach that Satan rules the Courts and legal institutions, seem to love running to Satan). Try to get both with one fling. The time they spend having to go back and change will be that much less time spent on the door-to-door infection work

  YOU MIGHT WELL SAVE A LIFE THAT WAY.

  Had someone done that to the evil or brainwashed Disease-vector(s) scheduled to later knock on Nancy's door, Nancy would probably now be alive, sharing a happy life with her husband and kids.

  --
  Focus
  (Pro-Love but Legal Disclaimer Class)
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  Fredhall

  Focus,

  It seems that you would not be a good mate.
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  Skeptic

  Had someone done that to the evil or brainwashed Disease-vector(s) scheduled to later knock on Nancy's door, Nancy would probably now be alive, sharing a happy life with her husband and kids.

  Focus,

  I strongly disagree. The facts show the man was dangerous. If he was like this after the divorce, what was he like before? There are many abusive men out there, and it is likely that the paradise hope promoted by the Dubs appealed to the woman.

  I do not see how her conversion contributed to her death in any significant way. Yes, it may have put additional stress on the marriage. However, I doubt the man was the nicest guy in the world and then suddenly became so enraged he had to murder his wife because of the effects of her conversion.

  He was abusive before the divorce and before her conversion. That is pretty obvious. It is not unusual for an absusive man to kill his wife when she tries to end the marriage.

  Sorry to be blunt, but posts like this do the ex-JW cause no good. JWs look at posts like this and conclude that apostates will twist anything to make the JWs look bad.

  Give the Dubs a break when they deserve it. There is enough solid stuff to nail 'em on.

  Richard
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  Focus

  Richard wrote:

  I strongly disagree. The facts show the man was dangerous. If he was like this after the divorce, what was he like before?

  Can you read?

  "after the divorce"? What "after the divorce"?

  Can you read?

  in the midst of a bitter divorce that began just three weeks ago

  So - I ask again - can you read?

  This is just one example of crass stupidity on your part. Your knee-jerk response is not based on such evidence that there is, but on your own prejudice and prejudgment (as I shall demonstrate further).

  Were you just basing your crap on your guesswork?

  Yes, I thought so.

  So -

  SHUT UP

  , idiot.

  I based my opinion on EVIDENCE (not proof, sure - but EVIDENCE).

  You have based your output on .. what?

  Or did you not bother to read the article properly before venting your ignorant prejudice, you moron?

  Further garbage from you:
  

  There are many abusive men out there

  Sure. And there are many abusive women out there too.

  Which proves that Kevin Hensley was abusive, does it?

  Hahahahahahaha!!

  Skeptic - I am very SKEPTICAL ABOUT YOUR LEVEL OF INTELLIGENCE, based on the above. Jeeez!

  I do not see how her conversion contributed to her death in any significant way.

  Hahahahahahahaa!

  Produce any citation that the man was guilty of violence prior to the event, rather than your evil, idiotic innuendo.

  However, I doubt the man was the nicest guy in the world

  Strawman argumentation. Did I say he was the nicest guy in the world, you ignorant dimwit?

  Further, this is a man who, according to the evidence I produced:

  * is widely described as "a hard-working father" and together with his spouse, as "the perfect couple" and "very nice people"
  * in remorse, tried to kill himself after the event;
  * to do so, went to Waterville Valley - "a place where he and Nancy would go in happier times"

  Sounds like a romantic who was pushed beyond what he could endure into a savage and untypical attack. I am not justifying what he did. He must be charged with murder, as I wrote (and you snipped).

  Also, women (like men) do TELL LIES in depositions during divorces, Mr "Skeptic"... Especially ones who have been trained in Theocratic War Strategy and that the worldlings of the Birdseed Class have no entitlement to hear the truth.

  Or do you believe everything you hear about being quoted in divorce depositions, Mr ""Skeptic""?

  Hahahahaahaaaa!

  He was abusive before the divorce and before her conversion.

  This is an example of Proof by ASSertion.

  Where is the evidence for your libel?

  There is NONE.

  Even her statements, relating as they do to recent events, deal with things AFTER HER CONVERSION.

  Take your head out of your rear end and expose it to some sunlight, """Skeptic""".

  That is pretty obvious

  Hahahahahaha! What is obvious relates to your mental state rather than the quoted case.

  You wrote:
  

  Sorry to be blunt

  You misspelled "gullible" above. It is not spelled b,l,u,n,t.

  I suggest you change your posting handle from "Skeptic" to "Gullible".

  As I have shown above, you are incapable of reading things - AND IT IS YOU WHO TWIST SUCH EVIDENCE AS THERE IS, TO SUIT YOUR OWN WORLD VIEW.

  What "after the divorce", eh?

  Idiot. You prove immediately that you have not read the article before ejaculating your stupid response.

  No hard feelings. You can't help it, I guess.

  --
  Focus
  (BASE OPINIONS ON EVIDENCE AND NOT ON PRE-FORMED WORLD VIEWS! Class)

  [Edited to tone it up a bit]
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  Focus

  Bearing in mind the above-demonstrated poor reading-comprehension skills exhibited on this discussion board, I guess it is helpful to some unfortunates for me to state explicitly that:

  1. Not one word of what I have written is an attempt to justify or excuse the man's action - an explanation of what appears, especially in the light of the timing of events, to have contributed to the breakdown is not a justification;

  2. I do not encourage or condone such actions, but unreservedly condemn them;

  3. As further evidence (I web-searched for more, but none was there) becomes available, my views as to contributory factors in this case may well be modified. Unlike the Watchtower and its apologists, I base my opinions on all the evidence that I have been able to find, rather than evidence that I do not have (or is "yet to be found", as the WT does in the case of certain archeological matters).

  --
  Focus
  (Facts Class)
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  Skeptic

  Focus,

  First, I apologize for being so blunt in my first reply. However, I do not think it warranted your response, nor your insults in the other thread. Nonetheless, I will give a quick reply. I had previously thought you were a reasonable person, but now I wonder. Unless, of course, you have just “snapped”.

  Yes, you are right, the divorce was not finalized. They were in the beginning stages of a divorce, not the end. I erred in that.

  And to be perfectly honest, neither of us can prove either side. Just as I don’t know if the woman was abusive and lying, you don’t know what contribution the JWs made to the situation, beyond helping with the divorce itself.

  Tell you what I’ll do: due to a lack of SOLID, VERIFIABLE evidence, I will withdraw my assertion that Kevin Hensley was an abusive husband. I still personally believe he was, but it is a belief based on circumstantial evidence and not solid proof.

  So, produce evidence that the Watchtower leader’s caused Nancy’s murder. If you cannot, then retract your statement or admit you are stupid and shut up.

  Focus, you are a poster I normally respect. I should let this post end here. Yet you have succeeded in doing something that is rare on this board, pissing me off. Since that was your intent, I will continue. Besides, I have to give you something to blast me over, right?

  Focus, have you ever been in an abusive relationship? I have. My first wife was a husband-beater, and I eventually made her leave. I doubt that you care, or are capable of understanding unless you have been in an abusive relationship yourself. They can get really weird. And when the man is the victim, he gets no sympathy. So, don’t shed any tears over me. I know you won’t. Focus, if you have been in an abusive relationship, you have my deepest sympathies. It can be pure hell.

  Facts consistent with the man being abusive:
  1 ) the midst of a bitter divorce that began just three weeks ago when Nancy Hensley, 45, tossed her husband out of the house and got a restraining order against him.

  Counterargument: The wife could have lied.

  2) Hensley, a 55-year-old Boston Transportation Department employee, allegedly strangled his wife, Nancy, in the family's Byron Street home Thursday afternoon.

  Counterargument: Someone else committed the murder; unlikely. He snapped…when an abusive spouse kicks you out, it is more common for you to be happy, not that you snap and murder the spouse.

  3) The friend said Hensley was "embarrassed" when he was served with a restraining order last month at work. He described the Hensleys as "the perfect couple" and said they "fought no more than anyone else."

  I smiled when I read this one. Everyone thought my first wife and I had “a perfect marriage”. My relatives do not like me to this day, simply because I divorced the bitch. My relatives still like her, and that is fine with me.

  I wish I had my other source, I remember reading that it is not uncommon for men to kill their wives when a divorce starts or a restraining order is put on them.

  4) Nancy Hensley was a recently converted Jehovah's Witness and claimed that "someone was guiding her in this (divorce)." "Someone was telling her what to do. I hope that person who guided her is happy now,"

  If I were being cynical, I would say that that sentence only implies the dubs were giving advice. However, Nancy was probably getting advice from the Witnesses. There is no evidence that she was told to lie. Just as there was no evidence that the Dubs did anything more than advise her to divorce an abusive husband and/or assist with the divorce proceedings.

  Of course, I could add that we both know how destructive a JW conversion can be to a marriage, but I am not allowed to bring that up according to you because I have no evidence that any damage actually occurred. I suspect there was some, but I would not want to risk being called stupid again.

  This is the limit of the influence the Dubs had, if we go strictly by “evidence”, not using our brains and thinking.

  5) Neighbors yesterday said the Hensleys appeared to be a happy family.

  This is common in abusive relationships. Problems are kept hidden, the appearances kept up.

  Also, women (like men) do TELL LIES in depositions during divorces, Mr "Skeptic"...

  Very good point. So do men and children. Though I must say that my ex did not lie on her depostion (to the best of my memory) and nor did I. Our kids did, however, and both of us haven't got much use for two of them right now. And yes, I am pissed at them for what they said about her, as well as what they said about me. Make out of that what you will.

  Now, you called me stupid and told me to SHUT UP if I did not produce evidence, so where is your evidence to justify the following statement?
  

  I boldly contend that the principles of Justice demand that the law be modified so that certain leaders (at the local and other levels) of the Jehovah's Witnesses Cult SHOULD BE CHARGED WITH MURDER, alongside Kevin Hensley.

  Focus, please present evidence showing that the leader’s of Jehovah’s Witnesses should be charged with murder, alongside Kevin Hensley. Remember, if you can’t then by your own standard you are stupid. See, I can do the childish name-calling too!

  Yet another Family utterly destroyed by the Watchtower, one can reasonably surmise.

  Here is the main point of our disagreement. You surmise that the Watchtower did the destroying, I contend that there was not much left to destroy. If Kevin Hensley was neither abusive nor unstable, how could the Watchtower destroy things so much he kills his wife? I can see the Watchtower being 100% the cause of a divorce, but not a murder. There had to be another factor. And with Nancy’s allegations of abuse, Kevin murdering Nancy seems to endorse that.

  Yes, I know how abusive spouses can cause great emotional pain. And how an abusive spouse can falsely accuse the other of abuse. You claim that Nancy could have lied, and maybe she did.

  My first wife told me to hit her. When I refused, she said she would accuse me of hitting her. Fortunately, she never did accuse me. What she did do what convince all of my children that I have cheated on her, “many times, with many women, over many years” and destroy any hope of a relationship with two of my sons. I have never cheated on my wife ever. And although she has cost me dearly, I have not even wanted to kill her, which is a far cry from actually killing her.

  Tell you what I’ll do: due to a lack of SOLID, VERIFIABLE evidence, I will withdraw my assertion that Kevin Hensley was an abusive husband. I still personally believe he was, but it is a belief based on circumstantial evidence and not solid proof.

  So, wipe the foam off your mouth and produce evidence that the Watchtower leader’s caused Nancy’s murder.

  Richard
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  Focus

  Skeptic wrote:

  Focus,First, I apologize for being so blunt in my first reply [..] Yes, you are right, the divorce was not finalized. They were in the beginning stages of a divorce, not the end. I erred in that [..] I can see the Watchtower being 100% the cause of a divorce [..] due to a lack of SOLID, VERIFIABLE evidence, I will withdraw my assertion that Kevin Hensley was an abusive husband.

  Good. Since you have thereby withdrawn most of your argument - and have admitted that the rest of your "feelings" about the non-jW husband were simply your own prejudgment, guesswork (in the face of part of the evidence) or prejudice - why should I teach you further?

  So, produce evidence that the Watchtower leader’s caused Nancy’s murder.

  Again, can't you read, """""""Skeptic"""""""?

  I answered this question ages before you asked it.

  Right in the lead post above. Here it is again, maybe you have some issue with using your mouse, eyes, cat or something else.

  ***fy 160-1
  GROUNDS FOR SEPARATION Are there situations that may justify separation or possibly divorce from a marriage mate even if that one has not committed fornication? Yes .. What are some extreme situations that may make a separation seem advisable? .. if a spouse constantly tries to force a marriage mate to break God's commands in some way, the threatened mate may also consider separation, especially if matters reach the point where spiritual life is endangered. The partner at risk may conclude that the only way to 'obey God as ruler rather than men' is to obtain a legal separation. -Acts 5:29.. mature friends and elders may offer support and Bible-based counsel .. if an extremely dangerous situation persists, no one should criticize her if she chooses to separate.. It is not true, as some assert, that Jehovah's Witnesses divide families.

  And what do you think "tries to force a marriage mate to break God's commands" means, eh? It means "tries to force a marriage mate to break THE WATCHTOWER'S COMMANDS"

  Like, being in the company of and having fellowship (and fellowship means "spiritual fellowship"; there is no other sort) with someone who opposes the Watchtower. And someone who loves a mate and then sees him or her fall over the precipice of madness into the netherworld of the God-dishonoring, filthy, barbaric Cults is likely to fight that evil tooth and nail (or give in and join).

  As the Watchtower leaders know this well.

  The Watchtower therefore openly solicits the division of families. So, they are, in a large part, a CAUSE the murder.

  Whether it can possibly be legally actionable is another matter altogether. I deal with that below.

  If you cannot, then retract your statement or admit you are stupid and shut up.

  In the light of the above, I think not.

  Focus, you are a poster I normally respect. I should let this post end here. Yet you have succeeded in doing something that is rare on this board, pissing me off. Since that was your intent, I will continue.

  LOL! Are you this easy to manipulate? Converting you must have been a cinch. Are you really going to stick with that posting handle, """"""""Skeptic""""""""?

  Focus, have you ever been in an abusive relationship? I have [..] I smiled when I read this one. Everyone thought my first wife and I had “a perfect marriage”

  Thank you for making it even more clear that you judged the non-jW husband on the basis of YOUR experience, rather than on the published evidence.

  This is the limit of the influence the Dubs had, if we go strictly by “evidence”, not using our brains and thinking

  And where did I suggest one ceased thinking??

  Elsewhere, you have declared (now if I was trying to "piss you off", I would have employed "conceded"!) that a JW conversion is very destructive to a marriage.

  So, I have no more quarrel with you, having demolished such points as you may have thought you had. I have left suitable advice for you in the "Anger Management" thread.

  Also, women (like men) do TELL LIES in depositions during divorces, Mr "Skeptic"...

  Very good point. So do men and children.

  So, do explain: which part of my words "(like men)" did you fail to understand?

  Not reading AGAIN?? See what a bad idea it is to write when you are so angry? Believe you me, I am being very gentle with you!

  I boldly contend that the principles of Justice demand that the law be modified so that certain leaders (at the local and other levels) of the Jehovah's Witnesses Cult SHOULD BE CHARGED WITH MURDER, alongside Kevin Hensley.

  Focus, please present evidence showing that the leader’s of Jehovah’s Witnesses should be charged with murder, alongside Kevin Hensley.

  I do not have such "evidence". Can't you read? AGAIN??????????? Read the text of mine that you have quoted immediately above, and pray inform me as to where in that have I claimed to have possession of such evidence?

  Hint: look for the word "modified".

  What I said was that I want THE LAW TO BE CHANGED so that Cult Manipulators are held accountable, both in tort and in criminal law, for the consequences to the world at large, of their duped, brainwashed followers adhering to cult teachings, at the same time weakening the available legal defenses of duty of care, foreseeability and of remoteness of damage in such cases. [/reiterate]

  With the law as it stands, there is no case to answer, as there is no direct evidence.

  Sadly, I do not think the law will be changed in this way. Lawmakers tend to underestimate the power of deceitful brainwashing and manipulation, and use the PERSONAL FREEDOM OF CHOICE argument AGAINST such an introduction - when in fact disgraceful Cults such as the Witnesses are the thieves of personal freedoms! Ironic, tragic...

  So again, you chase me on a strawman - attacking me for what you THINK I wrote - which is not what I wrote (Or what I thought, for that matter). One must ask, what is the motive of such people?

  Do you have a problem holding a negligent hypnotist accountable for the actions of the hypnotized person and damage resulting therefrom?

  Meditate before answering.

  Remember, if you can’t then by your own standard you are stupid.

  Well, I am clearly OK then.

  I can see the Watchtower being 100% the cause of a divorce, but not a murder.

  It is not 100% the cause of the murder. Yet another strawman?

  And legally - under the systems of "justice" that subsist in the US and most of the world - legally it is not at all the cause of the murder.

  That was my point. Legal reform is needed.

  Moral arguments WILL NEVER persuade the OLD WHORE. She understands but two persuasions - the $ and the lash.

  Tell you what I’ll do: due to a lack of SOLID, VERIFIABLE evidence, I will withdraw my assertion that Kevin Hensley was an abusive husband. I still personally believe he was, but it is a belief based on circumstantial evidence and not solid proof.

  Not that this is too relevant, but you misunderstand the meaning of circumstantial evidence. The evidence is an unsubstantiated allegation by an interested party, presented without any supportive proof or evidence from an independent source. Circumstantial evidence is something else.

  So, wipe the foam off your mouth

  I need not so employ my paw. I am not hot with anger... please, be more of a skeptic, and do not always go by outward appearances. If you must, join the OBVES club, which sees the Creeping Leopard shape country as being a fulfillment of unpleasant Biblical prophecies. At least, that is somewhat funny.

  No be at peace, and not in pieces, and go about your business with joy in your heart. Do not squander your happiness, and continue to have a care for those millions whose lives have been ruined by the Disgusting Abomination of Brooklyn.

  --
  Focus
  (Cold, Cold, Cold Anger Class)
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  Skeptic

  Focus,

  I have done the seething thingie, and the sort of calming down thingie, and now I am doing the "good, stiff, rum" thingie.

  Make of my response what you choose. I do have a response, but it will just keep this nonesense going. If you think the Borg is a huge factor in the killing of Nancy, that is fine with me.

  I'll let you win by default. We both have a great deal of anger toward the Borg, and our energies are better served by working together towards the Borg's demise than to fight amoungst ourselves.

  Call me weak, cowardly, gullible, whatever. Advertise my faults as you wish; though I might respond to those. I saw how long the Amazing dispute has gone on and I do not want to come on this board everyday and wonder what you are going to say to piss me off and how I will respond to piss you off.

  We are both adults here, and we both got bigger fish to fry. If I offended you I am sorry.

  Focus, I do not know you personally, but I always have respected your posts and I would like to keep it that way.

  I do not know your personal situation, but many people here are hurting bad, myself included. This hurt is not just because of the Borg, but, from the little I have gleaned, is from various and assorted personal issues that each poster has. Why is this hitting the board all at once? I don't know...maybe the bad economy has taken its toll, plus the time of year reminding people of hurtful anniversaries. That's my take on it, feel free to form your own opinion.

  Richard
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  Focus

  Skeptic wrote:

  Call me weak, cowardly, gullible, whatever.

  I have not called you weak or cowardly; I do not think of you as weak or cowardly.

  how I will [not] respond to piss you off.

  But, it is impossible to piss me off.

  Focus, I do not know you personally, but I always have respected your posts and I would like to keep it that way.

  And I respect your posts.

  Which is why the odd one out among them attracted such a loving rebuke, delivered in memorable style, from me! Do you see me correcting the unmentionable, unfruitful works of darkness (such as the jW-apologists who venture here) with such gusto? No, and rightly so. Those members of the Swine deserve only reproval in line with Eph. 5:11.

  Therefore, go forth in peace! And I am hunting elsewhere...

  Check the board, if you wish, for a new thread I have commenced.

  --
  Focus
  (Padded Feet Class)
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  Skeptic

  Which is why the odd one out among them attracted such a loving rebuke, delivered in memorable style, from me! Do you see me correcting the unmentionable, unfruitful works of darkness (such as the jW-apologists who venture here) with such gusto? No, and rightly so. Those members of the Swine deserve only reproval in line with Eph. 5:11.

  LOL! Take care, Focus. I wish both of us happy hunting!

  Richard