I'm starting to rethink my position on organized religion (page 3)

sabastious

I like it, too, but it does it not mean that spirituality can be reconised only in oneself?

That's sure what it appears like.

-Sab

Nickolas

There's a common theme in spiritual things. They occur only to oneself, so it follows they exist only in oneself - said another way, they don't exist anywhere else but in your mind.

Nickolas

I might certainly hope that my last comment a day ago didn't dead-end this thread. It had such potential.

I believe that being involved with an organized religion (not a cult) can be good for a lot of people, IF they never lose sight of the fact that they do not NEED the religion. Use religion to enhance your own lifestyle (family friends, holiday events, etc) Don't get caught up with the 'you need to be saved!' God-hype.

this is sound advice imo.

Curtains

sab

If I were to go out on a limb I would say "human spirituality" is whatever the individual finds important within his/her current state of being. Then again I hate trying to define such things because language is such a poor medium.

-Sab

when I look inside myself I see huge vats of intention, but I know that most of this is down to the outside world calling to me to try something new. If this is spirituality then not only does it incorporate physicality and ego but exists both inside and outside. But if traditionalists(organized religion, family) say sprituality contains nothing fleshly, nothing ambitious then I feel hamstrung. Ambition and ego exist in nature. Whilst a calm peaceful scene may engender serenity a wild destructive scene depicts nature working against herself - all of this we also find within

so in the main I agree with you Sab - just clarifying what sprituality must include for me

okay back to my books so over and out - hope that makes sense

streets76

"I'm spiritual" = "I'm specialual."

Mad Sweeney

If I were to go out on a limb I would say "human spirituality" is whatever the individual finds important within his/her current state of being.

Then what point in organizing into your "circles"?

Organizing into groups by its very nature stifles individuality.

streets76

What I say: "I'm spiritual, you know."

What I mean: "I like gazing at my navel."

sabastious

when I look inside myself I see huge vats of intention, but I know that most of this is down to the outside world calling to me to try something new. If this is spirituality then not only does it incorporate physicality and ego but exists both inside and outside. But if traditionalists(organized religion, family) say sprituality contains nothing fleshly, nothing ambitious then I feel hamstrung. Ambition and ego exist in nature. Whilst a calm peaceful scene may engender serenity a wild destructive scene depicts nature working against herself - all of this we also find within

"The Flesh" is heavily vested in spirituality. "Spirituality" utilizes our internal systems of prioritizing to stimulate action. The reason why religion tries to separate spirituality from the flesh is because they attempt to turn spirituality into a sellable product. They want to apply an external set of rules to a personalized individual system, document the results and sell sell sell.

-Sab

sabastious

What I mean: "I like gazing at my navel."

Get your shovel out beacuse sometimes there's treasures!

-Sab

I'm starting to rethink my position on organized religion

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