He was busy building his mansion in the view of the Pakistan army base.
Osama bin Laden is Dead
by jamiebowers 283 Replies latest social current
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Berengaria
He was busy building his mansion in the view of the Pakistan army base.
Pakistan might have some explaining to do.
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Scully
Its still astonishing that it took this long to find and kill this murdering tyrant.
Any other monumental undertaking would have had a lot to answer for had it taken almost 10 years, cost thousands of lives and billions of dollars to complete. I certainly wouldn't put it on my résumé.
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flipper
What I'm finding amazing is that in this skeptical society we live in requiring proof of a body how in the hell does the military justify throwing Bin Laden's corpse into the ocean ? I mean, this is just stupid. Somethings up. Either the military did it on their own without Obama's permission - or someone's trying to set Obama up to make him look inept. Or perhaps the global elite insisted on Bin Laden being thrown to the fishes to piss off Arab countries to incite more violence and war. Nobody in their right mind would get rid of the body of the worlds most wanted man. I want to see the goddamned body. After listening to news reports on alternative news - I'm beginning to think something is fishy in Denmark. Or more directly- something is amiss in the Middle East .
I truly feel there is MUCH more happening behind the scenes that isn't being revealed to the public. But isn't that usually ALWAYS the story ? There is some underlying reason they put his body to sea. Or perhaps more accurately - there is some underlying reason they are GIVING THE IMPRESSION he was put out to sea. There's more to this story than meets the eye
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Robdar
Could you remind us of one or two of those times he was reported dead, please? Just to jog our memory.
Get off your ass and look at some of the links posted on this very thread. Oh, and read a newspaper now and then.
okayluvyoubye
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Terra Incognita
My apologies cutting and pasting very long articles. I don't like to do that usually but there is simply too much historical information available to allow the time to do anything else. My praise to those who have done their homework.
Exposing the moral and intellectual bankruptcy of these Fokxian/Beckian/Limbuaghian/Tea Leaves Partying psychopaths/psychotics is a thankless task. The day will come, though when it will all be history.
"This Is Crazy": The Right's Mocking Attacks On Obama's 2007 Pakistan Policy
May 02, 2011 5:31 pm ET — 20 CommentsIn the wake of Osama Bin Laden's death, the media are revisiting President Obama's 2007 speech promising to take action against terrorists in Pakistan. At the time, the conservative media attacked Obama's policy as "crazy" and "frightening."
In 2007 Speech, Obama Promised To Pursue Terrorists In Pakistan
Obama: "If We Have Actionable Intelligence About High-Value Terrorist Targets And President Musharraf Won't Act, We Will." On August 1, 2007, then-presidential candidate Obama delivered a speech at the Woodrow Wilson Center outlining his foreign policy positions:
As President, I would make the hundreds of millions of dollars in U.S. military aid to Pakistan conditional, and I would make our conditions clear: Pakistan must make substantial progress in closing down the training camps, evicting foreign fighters, and preventing the Taliban from using Pakistan as a staging area for attacks in Afghanistan.
I understand that President Musharraf has his own challenges. But let me make this clear. There are terrorists holed up in those mountains who murdered 3,000 Americans. They are plotting to strike again. It was a terrible mistake to fail to act when we had a chance to take out an al Qaeda leadership meeting in 2005. If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will. [Barack Obama, 8/1/2007]
NY Times: Operation Has "Echoes Of 2007 Obama Speech"
NY Times: Obama's Comment Was "Eerily Prescient." From a May 2 post at the NY Times' Caucus blog:
In a speech almost 18 months before he assumed the presidency, Barack Obama issued a blunt warning to President Pervez Musharaff of Pakistan: "If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will."
The line was eerily prescient, as it turned out. In his late-night statement on Sunday announcing the death of Osama bin Laden, Mr. Obama said that the United States had acted inside Pakistan to capture or kill the Al Qaeda leader on just that kind of actionable intelligence.
"Today, at my direction, the United States launched a targeted operation against that compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan," Mr. Obama said. "A small team of Americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability. No Americans were harmed. They took care to avoid civilian casualties. After a firefight, they killed Osama bin Laden and took custody of his body." [NYTimes.com, 5/2/2011]
Right-Wing Media Attacked, Mocked Obama's 2007 Pakistan Remarks
Rush Limbaugh: Obama And Bin Laden "On The Same Page." From the September 20, 2007, edition of The Rush Limbaugh Show:
LIMBAUGH: Well, we've got another tape from -- I get these guys confused -- Usama bin Laden. Another tape says he's going to invade Pakistan and declare war on Pakistan and Musharraf, which, ladies and gentlemen, puts him on the same page with a Democrat presidential candidate -- that would be Barack "Uss-Obama." And let's go back to August 1st: "U-Bama" gave a speech on counterterrorism, and here's a portion of what he said.
OBAMA [audio clip]: If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf will not act, we will.
LIMBAUGH: All right, so, we're going to attack Pakistan. Poor Musharraf's going to get it on both ends if Barack's elected. [Premiere Radio Networks, The Rush Limbaugh Show, 9/20/2007]
Sean Hannity: Obama Could "Potentially Create A Theocracy With Nuclear Weapons." Fox News' Sean Hannity repeatedly attacked Obama's Pakistan remarks:
- Hannity claimed Obama said "he would bomb an ally, General Musharraf in Pakistan," and suggested that Obama remarks "say that Barack Obama is not qualified to be president of the United States." [Fox News, Hannity & Colmes, 8/14/2007]
- Hannity claimed Obama said he would "maybe invade an ally like Pakistan and potentially create a theocracy with nuclear weapons," and described Obama's position as "frightening." Hannity's assessment was met with agreement by former Bush aide Karl Rove, who said: "[T]his goes back to the inexperience that he has. Remember, he -- you're right about Pakistan. We've talked briefly about what he said with regard to the rogue state." [Fox News, Hannity & Colmes, 5/12/2008]
- Hannity claimed that "if there's anybody confused in this race, it's the former community organizer who can't decide on dividing Jerusalem, invading Pakistan, or meeting with Ahmadinejad without preconditions." [Fox News, Hannity & Colmes, 7/16/2008]
William Kristol: Obama "Frantically Suggest[ed] That He Would Invade Pakistan." Weekly Standard editor William Kristol claimed Obama's Pakistan position was part of a "retreat" by the "American antiwar movement":
For the Iraq war's opponents, July began as a month of hope. It ended in retreat. It began with Democratic unity in proclaiming the inevitability of American defeat. It ended with respected military analysts--Democrats, no less!--reporting that the situation on the ground had improved, and that the war might be winnable. It began with a plan for a series of votes in Congress that were supposed to stampede nervous Republicans against the continued prosecution of the war. It ended with the GOP spine stiffened, no antiwar legislation passed, and the Democratic Congress adjourning in disarray, with approval ratings lower than President Bush's. It began with Democratic presidential candidates competing in their antiwar pandering. It ended with them having second thoughts--with Barack Obama, losing ground to Hillary Clinton because he seemed naive about real world threats, frantically suggesting that he would invade Pakistan. [The Weekly Standard, 8/13/2007]
New York Post Editorial: Obama "Once Insisted That US Forces Invade Pakistan In Search Of Osama Bin Laden." In their editorial endorsing John McCain for president, the New York Post wrote:
Obama backed policies that would have abandoned Iraq to its fate, he bitterly opposed the surge, and once insisted that US forces invade Pakistan in search of Osama bin Laden - seemingly without regard for the potential consequences of attacking a nuclear-armed nation, ally or not. [New York Post, 9/8/2008]
Charles Hurt: A "Diplo-Disaster." New York Post columnist Charles Hurt wrote that Obama's comment was one among a series of Democratic "self-inflicted wounds":
Among those he promised face time is Iranian despot Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, a Holocaust denier with nuclear ambitions who makes no secret of his desire to annihilate Israel.
Then, in a prepared speech, Obama publicly threatened to invade Pakistan, a key - and already teetering - ally in the war on terror. He followed that diplo-disaster with a blanket statement - again, in public - that he would not even consider using the single greatest weapon in America's arsenal to combat the terrorists.
We'd still be fighting the Japanese if Harry Truman - a Democrat unafraid to fight - subscribed to this fuzzy fringe foreign policy. [New York Post, 8/3/2007]
Ralph Peters: "This Is Crazy." Appearing on Fox News, military analyst Ralph Peters described Obama's Pakistan comments as "loonier than anything he's said about Iraq" and called them "crazy":
PETERS: But right now, he can't play the Iraq card, so he's trying very hard to play the Afghanistan card. And frankly, what he's saying about Afghanistan and Pakistan is loonier than anything he's said about Iraq. For instance, the idea that we should send ground troops into Pakistan -- look, our troops only get their supplies, their water, their food, their gasoline, their bullets, their spare parts through Pakistan. So, we're going to invade the country through which we get our supplies -- that means the routes closed. We can't resupply them --
HEATHER NAUERT: Yeah. Well --
PETERS: -- by air, and you're forcing the Pakistani military to fight us. This is crazy. [Fox News, America's Election Headquarters, 7/15/2008]
John Gibson: "He's A Loser." Then-Fox News host John Gibson included Obama in his list of "losers" for the week in which Obama gave his speech:
GIBSON: Well we go now to this week's losers. And on the list, right there on top is O.J. Simpson, because he does not even have the right to sell his own confession.
KURT LONG: No, and that book Goldman, that's a win for him, just seeing O.J. suffer. But unless he gets J.K. Rowlings to add a couple of chapters, then call it Harry Potter and the two people who were murdered, then maybe he'll get --
GIBSON: Barack Obama suggested we invade Pakistan, this week, he's a loser.
LONG: Yes, he is, not quite yet, but I think he'll definitely be a loser in November, in about a year. Yeah I think that's going to be a definite loser. [Fox News, The Big Story, 8/3/2007, via Nexis]
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SixofNine
Get off your ass and look at some of the links posted on this very thread. Oh, and read a newspaper now and then.
Well see there's the problem Robdar; no one on this site reads the news more than me. And while I haven't read this entire thread, I know that there are no links to real news reports of Bin Laden being killed in the past. I know this, because I've kept up, and there simply have been no credible reports of bin Laden being killed before now.
I understand totally your frustration at having been called out for posting bullshit, but the solution isn't to double down on bullshit, nor is it to accuse the person who calls you out, and who you know is correct, of needing to do more research. The answer Robdar, would have been for you to say "yeah, ok, I made that shit up", because, well, you made that shit up. You may really believe it, but if so that just means you ought to read a newspaper now and then.
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Robdar
There have been reports of Bin Laden's death for well over a decade, smart ass. Just because you didnt see the reports doesn't mean I made them up. Why dont you just admit you are full of shit and dont bother to notice things that don't keep with your liberal agenda.
Good job on trying to harrass me into doing your research for you, lazy ass.
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Robdar
And btw, Lazy buttocks, my extremely liberal husband also recalls reading these reports and seeing them on the news. He also calls bullshit on this story. As a matter of fact, he called bullshit before I did. I'll be sure to let him know that you think we just pulled the stories out of our ass.
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freydo
Does anyone think it slightly ironic that Obama picked May 1st to make the great proclamation? Not only was it also the day of "beautifying" the x-pope, but May 1st is the high holiday of Communism.
"The Mass on Monday began with a procession in St. Peter's Square of bishops and cardinals in gold and white vestments. They walked beneath a large colorful photo of a youthful John Paul that was unveiled in an emotional moment during the beatification and now hangs from the loggia of the basilica. One cleric carried aloft a relic, a vial of blood taken from John Paul for medical tests shortly before his death. A key feature of beatification ceremonies, the relic will be available for the faithful to venerate.........."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110502/ap_on_re_eu/eu_vatican_john_paul_iiPure Hollywood - Bin Laden's been dead 7 years