Sarcasm, fat and ugly. I am overweight, not obese. Not Brad Pitt, but not ugly. Jesus was harsh and judgmental, yet loving. I guess you have not read the Bible. Saying that Jesus is the only way, that He is God, that there is a heaven to gain/hell to shun is not harsh/unloving, if true. You are inventing a god in your own image and a nice religion that is not based on truth, just your sinful desires.
The Christian Onslaught
by satinka 205 Replies latest jw friends
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Terra Incognita
Godrulz, Post #430:"Sarcasm, fat and ugly. I am overweight, not obese. Not Brad Pitt, but not ugly."
Godrulz, you are the one who first described yourself as fat and ugly. You brought it up with no one in any way prompting you. Satinka was merely making reference to YOUR self caricature.
As for the puppet Jesus image, my apologies for not providing an explanation for you and others as to the meaning of that image. It is actually a reference to your concept, and that of virtually every Christian, of Jesus. It is no different in intent than the caricatures called "American Jesus". The sarcasm is NOT directed at Jesus but at those who fantasize him in their image.
I actually told my Judicial Committee that God was a puppet they wore on their hands and the Bible a set of dentures that they popped in their mouths. The intent of that had nothing to do with my ideas of God or the Bible but rather was a description of how the Witnesses manipulated them as a servant and subservient tool to their own ugly souls.
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godrulz
The jesus/jehovah of the WT are not the biblical ones. The WT systematically distorts the doctrine of God/Christology in their sectarian NWT. Christians worship and exalt the Sovereign Lord Jesus/Jehovah and are not guilty of making Him in our image or treating Him like a puppet. Rail against the WT, but you cannot do the same against biblical Christianity.
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Terra Incognita
Godrulz:
"Christians worship and exalt the Sovereign Lord Jesus/Jehovah and are not guilty of making Him in our image or treating Him like a puppet. Rail against the WT, but you cannot do the same against biblical Christianity."
You're being dense, God. I wasn't so much ranting against the Bitchtower as I was giving an example of my general thoughts. You can claim exemption from this Universal rule all you want but:
All religious and ideological people are puppeteers
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of their "God(s)" and/or ideas and principles.
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That includes you buddy!
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godrulz
Christianity is a personal relationship with the Living God, ultimate freedom, love, life. Religion is a snare, a manmade, devilish trap that keeps people from God.
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Terra Incognita
Godrulz:
"Christianity is a personal relationship with the Living God, ultimate freedom, love, life. Religion is a snare, a manmade, devilish trap that keeps people from God."
Sorry bud, but religion, in the general and meaningful sense of the word, includes all forms of worship and perceived relationships with God(s)REGARDLESS of whether an organized church is involved or not.
The egocentric and intellectual manipulations being made by the individual do not require institutions, just personal self deception.
Your personal God, as the Canadian Neurologist Michael Persinger discovered, is simply part of the human ego speaking to another part of itself without being the least bit aware that its message is coming from within. Thus the whole "spiritual" experience is erroneously perceived as coming from outside the ego.
You're actually being puppeteered by your unconscious. When its thoughts go through your conscious mind and out of your mouth, you then begin to interact with your concept - your "God".
Man writing the "Word of God"
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jgnat
godrulz, as soon as you stepped out of your personal relationship with God and inquired after other's spiritual state (slotting them as "believers", "unbelievers", and "Nominal Christian", you stepped in to the realm of "religion". You are applying your self-made rules based on your image of God.
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godrulz
God has revealed Himself and the gospel to us in Scripture. He dealt with Israel and contrasted true faith with a plethora of odious false gods/religions. In the NT, the full revelation of Christ retains a narrow focus (Him vs false gods, false idols, that are not gods at all). Heb. 1:1-3; Jude 3; Jn. 14:6; Acts 4:12; Jn. 3:16. Christianity is unique because Jesus is God, so the only way to relationship with God is through the risen Christ. Scientology, Islam, Buddhism, etc. will not cut it because their founder is not the risen God-Man and their writings are not divine revelation.
The local church (vs GB) is also emphasized throughout the NT. There is a corporate dimension. To be right with God is to be in relationship with His people. Corporate worship, instruction, fellowship, evangelism, service, leadership, prayer, discipleship, etc. is God's idea. Just because their is religion/organization counterfeit does not mean the wisdom of God has not raised up a family/army built on the foundation of Christ. Lone Ranger Christian is an oxymoron.
Some of you throw the baby out with the bathwater and swing the pendulum too far the other way. This is a reflection of where you are at, a need for healing/wholeness, a need for maturity and obedience, etc. We should not lower God's ways to our lower level. With His help, we can be what we should be in fellowship with Him and others. Relationships are not wrong, just destructive ones like those in the kingdom of the cults (which is not an argument against loving family, church, society, etc.).
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jgnat
So say you.
Who is to say how wide the pendulum swings?
I don't need your "healing". Logs and slivers.
Godrulz, Post #430: