Soaring Gas Prices

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  • diamondiiz
    diamondiiz

    B_Deserter, you know oil dropped some 16 dollars last week so no surprise the gas prices dropped.

    Most commodities are traded in US dollars so not only is the supply and demand playing role on the price of commodities but also the exchange rate and one other thing - liquidity. Thanks to US Fed, there is plenty of liquidity but what happens at the end of June when Q2 ends? It's hard to say. The peak oil theory is valid. According to the theory the cheap oil has peaked or is very close to peaking which means oil prices will move higher which also translates into the world inflation rising as there is no easy living without oil. This should curb the human growth on the planet and should lead to unrest. So, whatever the Fed does is irrelevant as to the long term price of crude.

    Crude is also traded in US dollars which last week also hit all time low support and bounced which caused the commodities to correct as well. Without Fed's liquidity markets may end their 2.5 year "bull market" and move south which short term may have effect on commodities but again, with over 14 trillion in national debt US dollar rally will be short lived and investors will move back to certain commodities foreign currencies or gold. Either way US dollar is going lower in the long term and certain commodities will continue to rise in the long term. Gas prices will rise in the long term and so will food and gold.

    Obama cannot stop the speculation in the markets any more than you can stop the US treasuries from being fully sold! Hedge funds will just do their bets through third parties just as treasuries will be bought by the Fed through third party. US will not default and will continue to inject liquidity into the markets under Q3 or more likely another name. All these things affect prices we see at the stores.

    As for oil exporters, I've checked Wiki and ya, UK has a tiny net export of oil but that's pretty much flat as are many other countries, I would have to do research on their reserves but basically if your country is an exporter and is near it's oil peak then you will either pump more from your reserves to quench the thirst for oil which will deplete the reserves faster or become a net importer and deplete the reserves of other nations' - Middle East.

    IMO the only thing that will sustain the future of human growth population on the planet is a new cheap alternative technology that replaces oil. Otherwise the intermediate future is not looking good for people in general as oil price's rise will affect everything by it. From production of crops to transportation to obviously prices rising at the food stores. That in turn should affect initially poor nations where internal unrest will occur and may spread to more wealthy nations.

    Just my 2 cents worth.

  • ballistic
    ballistic

    I hate to disagree with our English cousins

    lol and I always thought we were brothers. Whatever. Scotland reserves are due to run out in 2020. The oil fields we share are already run out of oil.

    Most of the oil is gone now. It's over.

  • FlyingHighNow
    FlyingHighNow

    Who needs floods for the food prices to shoot up? Everything you can buy gets shipped. Jet fuel, gasoline and diesel. Who do you think is going to fund the fuel costs for shipping companies?

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/05/oil-prices-plunge-in-reco_n_858275.html?icid=main%7Chtmlws-main-n%7Cdl2%7Csec3_lnk2%7C212320

    Maybe there is some hope:

    NEW YORK -- Oil prices took a nosedive Thursday in a historic selloff, erasing weeks of gains and indicating that the months-long climb in energy prices may have hit a ceiling.

    Crude oil plunged 10 percent as startled investors unloaded their positions and a weeklong decline accelerated into an outright freefall. The price of U.S. crude went from triple digits to double digits, falling below $100 after opening at close to $110. Brent crude, a European benchmark, lost $12 at one point in a sell-off that exceeded the one following Lehman Brothers' collapse, Reuters reported.

    An oil correction is underway, experts said, as the price is moving toward what fundamental economic factors dictate it should be. For the American consumer, plagued by weeks of rising energy prices that have begun to weigh heavily on the economy, a bit of respite may be at hand.

    "This is just a market that rolled over and started feeding on itself," said John Richards, head of North American strategy for the Royal Bank of Scotland.

    [UPDATE FRIDAY 9:45a.m. -- Oil prices are jittery on Friday. U.S. crude hit a low below $95, for a 13 percent fall from Thursday's opening price. Brent touched a low just above $105, logging a fall of nearly 13 percent from Thursday's open. Both are now trending upward.]

    It's difficult to say what exactly caused the fall. After the news broke Sunday evening that Osama bin Laden was killed, stocks rose and oil prices declined. Stocks later came down from that high, but oil kept declining. On Thursday, the news broke that applications for unemployment benefits jumped last week by the largest degree since August, indicating that high unemployment still drags on the economy. But experts said it's impossible to pin the oil price decline on any single factor.

    "There was no triggering single event of news that would account for this. It's just much more the market's own internal dynamics taking prices down here," Richards added.

    The price of oil has shot skyward in recent months, as fighting escalated in the Middle East and investors feared a supply shortage. Even as the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries pledged to correct any oil supply disruption, the price of a barrel of crude continued to rise. As of the recent peak on Friday, Brent was up 50 percent compared to this time last year. Oil prices had reached levels not seen since the summer of 2008, when months of record-high energy prices helped drag the U.S. economy into recession.

    And the price of gas followed. A gallon of regular gas in the U.S. now costs an average of nearly $4, according to the American Automobile Association. That has strained the economy in myriad ways, increasing transportation costs for consumers and businesses and generally making people feel poorer. As prices continued to rise, economists slashed their forecasts for U.S. economic growth.

    Almost half of Americans in a recent survey said they had cut back spending or canceled vacation plans due to high gas prices, according to the Royal Bank of Canada, which released its latest U.S. Consumer Outlook Index on Thursday. As energy prices have pushed up transportation costs across the board, a fifth of Americans have scaled back plans because of high air fares, RBC said.

    But that trend appears to be reversing.

    "Prices can't go up forever," said Mark Vitner, a senior economist at Wells Fargo. "The threat was very real, but it's also very self-correcting."

    The effect of Thursday's market move on gas prices remains to be seen. But experts said it's a correction that was long overdue.

    "Clearly these markets were overblown," said Nariman Behravesh, chief economist of IHS Global Insight. "We've been saying all along the fear factor has probably added 10 to 15 dollars to the price of a barrel."

    "There was no triggering single event of news that would account for this. It's just much more the market's own internal dynamics taking prices down here," Richards added.

    The price of oil has shot skyward in recent months, as fighting escalated in the Middle East and investors feared a supply shortage. Even as the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries pledged to correct any oil supply disruption, the price of a barrel of crude continued to rise. As of the recent peak on Friday, Brent was up 50 percent compared to this time last year. Oil prices had reached levels not seen since the summer of 2008, when months of record-high energy prices helped drag the U.S. economy into recession.

    And the price of gas followed. A gallon of regular gas in the U.S. now costs an average of nearly $4, according to the American Automobile Association. That has strained the economy in myriad ways, increasing transportation costs for consumers and businesses and generally making people feel poorer. As prices continued to rise, economists slashed their forecasts for U.S. economic growth.

    Almost half of Americans in a recent survey said they had cut back spending or canceled vacation plans due to high gas prices, according to the Royal Bank of Canada, which released its latest U.S. Consumer Outlook Index on Thursday. As energy prices have pushed up transportation costs across the board, a fifth of Americans have scaled back plans because of high air fares, RBC said.

    But that trend appears to be reversing.

    "Prices can't go up forever," said Mark Vitner, a senior economist at Wells Fargo. "The threat was very real, but it's also very self-correcting."

    The effect of Thursday's market move on gas prices remains to be seen. But experts said it's a correction that was long overdue.

    "Clearly these markets were overblown," said Nariman Behravesh, chief economist of IHS Global Insight. "We've been saying all along the fear factor has probably added 10 to 15 dollars to the price of a barrel."

    "There was no triggering single event of news that would account for this. It's just much more the market's own internal dynamics taking prices down here," Richards added.

    The price of oil has shot skyward in recent months, as fighting escalated in the Middle East and investors feared a supply shortage. Even as the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries pledged to correct any oil supply disruption, the price of a barrel of crude continued to rise. As of the recent peak on Friday, Brent was up 50 percent compared to this time last year. Oil prices had reached levels not seen since the summer of 2008, when months of record-high energy prices helped drag the U.S. economy into recession.

    And the price of gas followed. A gallon of regular gas in the U.S. now costs an average of nearly $4, according to the American Automobile Association. That has strained the economy in myriad ways, increasing transportation costs for consumers and businesses and generally making people feel poorer. As prices continued to rise, economists slashed their forecasts for U.S. economic growth.

    Almost half of Americans in a recent survey said they had cut back spending or canceled vacation plans due to high gas prices, according to the Royal Bank of Canada, which released its latest U.S. Consumer Outlook Index on Thursday. As energy prices have pushed up transportation costs across the board, a fifth of Americans have scaled back plans because of high air fares, RBC said.

    But that trend appears to be reversing.

    "Prices can't go up forever," said Mark Vitner, a senior economist at Wells Fargo. "The threat was very real, but it's also very self-correcting."

    The effect of Thursday's market move on gas prices remains to be seen. But experts said it's a correction that was long overdue.

    "Clearly these markets were overblown," said Nariman Behravesh, chief economist of IHS Global Insight. "We've been saying all along the fear factor has probably added 10 to 15 dollars to the price of a barrel."

  • FlyingHighNow
    FlyingHighNow

    The rest of the above article won't paste. I am going to try to paste it here.

    "There was no triggering single event of news that would account for this. It's just much more the market's own internal dynamics taking prices down here," Richards added.

    The price of oil has shot skyward in recent months, as fighting escalated in the Middle East and investors feared a supply shortage. Even as the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries pledged to correct any oil supply disruption, the price of a barrel of crude continued to rise. As of the recent peak on Friday, Brent was up 50 percent compared to this time last year. Oil prices had reached levels not seen since the summer of 2008, when months of record-high energy prices helped drag the U.S. economy into recession.

    And the price of gas followed. A gallon of regular gas in the U.S. now costs an average of nearly $4, according to the American Automobile Association. That has strained the economy in myriad ways, increasing transportation costs for consumers and businesses and generally making people feel poorer. As prices continued to rise, economists slashed their forecasts for U.S. economic growth.

    Almost half of Americans in a recent survey said they had cut back spending or canceled vacation plans due to high gas prices, according to the Royal Bank of Canada, which released its latest U.S. Consumer Outlook Index on Thursday. As energy prices have pushed up transportation costs across the board, a fifth of Americans have scaled back plans because of high air fares, RBC said.

    But that trend appears to be reversing.

    "Prices can't go up forever," said Mark Vitner, a senior economist at Wells Fargo. "The threat was very real, but it's also very self-correcting."

    The effect of Thursday's market move on gas prices remains to be seen. But experts said it's a correction that was long overdue.

    "Clearly these markets were overblown," said Nariman Behravesh, chief economist of IHS Global Insight. "We've been saying all along the fear factor has probably added 10 to 15 dollars to the price of a barrel."

  • SweetBabyCheezits
    SweetBabyCheezits

    Due to the high cost of fuel and a desire to go green, we are trading in our Tahoe for one of these:

  • MrFreeze
    MrFreeze

    Where do you think the money comes for your free health care Europe and Canada? That's right, taxes.

  • FlyingHighNow
    FlyingHighNow

    The companies that ship products charge higher fees. The companies that make the products raise their prices. We will pay for the higher fuel prices at the pump and at the food, clothing and other stores. Inflation will leap. It did the last time gas prices soared.

  • Mary
    Mary

    2 years ago when the financial meltdown came, gas around here was at 65 cents a litre. It cost me about $33.00 to fill up. I just went out to fill up tonight because the price is supposed to skyrocket tomorrow and it cost me just over $70.00.

    This is horseshit.......this is not "supply and demand" because demand has not doubled in the last two years. This is North America being stupid enough to cut production over here and become dependent on foreign (aka, Saudi Arabia) oil, where we hereby allow the bastards who run the show to bankrupt the rest of the free world by cutting production and jacking the prices up.

    I sold my car one year ago, bought myself a bike, and have saved thousands

    I applaud your efforts and I wish I were in a position to do the same thing. Unfortunately, I can't. My parents are elderly and I need to be close by and I am not going to uproot them at their age. There is no public transportation system from where I live to where I work and jobs around where I live are pretty scarce at the moment. I wish the shoulders on the road were paved, because I would seriously consider buying an electric bike to get to work, even though it'd probably take a couple of hours.....

  • moshe
    moshe
    bought myself a bike, and have saved thousands-

    bundle up this winter, mate, as it gets really cold in Scotland, as you well know.

  • MrFreeze
    MrFreeze

    Biking where I live isn't very wise. If you are familiar with Pittsburgh it is nothing but hills, many of them very steep. Good luck biking up them! Also, winter and ice hit hard here. It's just not practical. Not to mention nothing is a straight shot here. The just roads wherever they could place them so its a big to-do to get anywhere.

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