JWs and the Family Unit - Calling Maze to defend assertions

by Retrovirus 61 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • Retrovirus
    Retrovirus

    In the thread about the WT in Russia, Maze made the assertions below.

    Jehovah's Witnesses as an organization acts as a protection to the family unit
    .

    And
    The lie that Jehovah's Witnesses ruin families is apostate poison.

    To aviod derailing that thread, I ask Maze to defend them here.

    My experience is that the jw religion destroyed my brothers' marriage. Both he and his wife were responsible, compatible people who did everything in their power to preserve a stable relationship for their children.

    But when one partner belongs to a religion which claims to be absolutely right, and teaches contempt for the rest of the world, how can you compromise? Can a jw parent allow their child freedom to choose? Can they really respect their partners' right to believe differently?

    I cannot address the more direct ruina of families when disfellowshipped members must be shunned as I lack the personal experience, but hope that others will do so.

    For the sake of lurkers this must be highlighted.

    Maze, your quoted statements are not true. The jw religion does destroy families .

  • jean-luc picard
    jean-luc picard

    I used to preach like Maze.

    Its only once you're outside that you realize that the company line is false.

    With them, its always somebody elses fault.

    Keeping a family together is a question of compromising from time to time.

    Jehovahs witnesses cannot do that. They are not allowed.

  • ihadnoidea
    ihadnoidea

    I am not looking to totally take a side in this debates, but I am of the opinion that religion in general can be used as another way to divides people including families. If its not race, culture, or the part of the world you live its belief or religion people often use to create "us" and "them" divides. When everyone is part of the same religion, lets say in this case being a Jehovah Witness everything maybe great. In fact, the time shared together doing something probably will bring people closer. Having some moral guide too may not hurt either. The problem is when it becomes a dividing line. I think some Jehovah Witnesses will use it as a dividing line, and create a hostile environment. In these cases the WT will do more harm then good. I am thinking this guy has a good situation, so he is defending what he is experiencing. My question would be does the Jehovah Witness faith actually better at keeping people married then other faiths? I do not think you can support this assertion with any marriage statistics. So if your situation is good, maybe it has less to do with your faith and more to do with other factors.

  • diamondiiz
    diamondiiz

    You guys have to remember that Maze is a troll here who keeps making new accounts to confuse some who he is. S/he has been here for a long time under different names so it's not like s/he cares to debate on a logical level. These people are here to stir shit up without regard for the truth as truth is not found in them but deception.

  • possible-san
    possible-san

    Retrovirus.

    Probably, it is kind if you show us the link.
    http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/210268/2/Had-the-magazines-left-at-my-house-today-and-wanted-to-SCREAM-after-reading-this-article-in-the-May-1-2011-WT

    Well, Maze has also said like this there.

    Sexual immorality above all threatens family life. If the family unit had anything to do with what's motivating the Russian government, why don't they outlaw pornography?

    But, in another thread, I said like this.

    "Well, of course, active JWs cannot watch them (porn).
    That is a cult which restricts males' healthy desire and makes people feel a guilty to God."
    http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/social/entertainment/205664/1/A-Japanese-actress-in-adult-films-Maria-Ozawa

    Moreover, I know well that the cover-up by the Governing Body.
    http://www.freeminds.org/organization/barbara-anderson/the-discoveries-of-barbara-anderson.html

    That is, Guy Pierce. (Please see Mrs. AndersonsInfo's post)
    http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/206074/1/What-sort-of-person-is-GB-member-Guy-Pierce

    Furthermore, I know well that the Governing Body is very obscene/lewd.
    http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/171616/1/lascivious-governing-body

    I think that these all show their lie/hypocrisy.

    possible

  • charlie brown jr.
    charlie brown jr.

    Destroyed my family...........

    So Maze stop talking out of your ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    As we all have talked to your many personalities......

    Alice your so misguided

  • VoidEater
    VoidEater

    In my experience, yes, sexual immorality can be bad for the JW family: incest, molestation, sexual abuse of their immediate and extended families (not to mention extending that beyond to others in the congregation).

    It split up my mom from my aunt for nearly 50 years.

    The only "protection" in this case is protection of the molester - no one is allowed to call them on it, and when it is brought up it is hushed up.

    Just my experience.

    And isn't it wonderful when the religion mandates couples stay married, despite emotional and physical abuse? I can't even count the times I've seen that in the various congregations we attended.

    Or the abuse the religion promotes: wives being subservient to their husbands in all things.

    I think I'll pass.

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    Empirical stats I have seen indicates that the divorce rate is the same for the Jehovah's Witnesses as the rest of society. All the literature education has not made a whit of difference.

    http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/divorce.php

  • VoidEater
    VoidEater

    ;-)

  • Maze
    Maze
    You guys have to remember that Maze is a troll here who keeps making new accounts to confuse some who he is. S/he has been here for a long time under different names so it's not like s/he cares to debate on a logical level. These people are here to stir shit up without regard for the truth as truth is not found in them but deception.

    No, that has nothing to with my user name. Try again.

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