Gems from the August 15, 2011 WT

by Ultimate Reality 87 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • leavingwt
    leavingwt

    bttt

  • happyexjw
    happyexjw

    The thought that come to my mind when reading this and it is probably way off the scale but here goes:

    We all know that the legal department are getting bigger due to their harmful doctrines and how the GB are removing themselves from accountability. The 144,000 = the anointed = faithful and discreet slave including the GB themselves

    When they state " A number of factors including past religious beliefs or even mental or emotional imbalance might cause some to assume mistakenly that they have the heavenly calling" is that them leagally omiting ownership due to their own mental or emotional imbalance. For example, the blood doctrine, child abuse situation, the whole of human society is wising up to human rights, injustices, laws changing etc the GB have caused so many needless deaths and needless messed up childhoods, people are taking a stand now and some are trying to sue them. So if they omit ownership and accountability and print it in double speak when things do go to court in liabel cases they can use what they print to their advantage eg. we never maintained that we were perfect, some of us had mental health problems.

    Lets just say if in the near future (hopefully very near) that they are uncovered to the whole world their genocide to a vast majority of humans through the past with their blood doctrine, that their child abuse doctrines make bigger news than the catholics and they are brought to trial. In order to save their little sagging arses, instead of being shown to the world as evil dictators to vulnerable people, therefore losing all their followers they use a simular excuse to what they did in after 1975, "A few people run away with themselves". A few members on the GB 1.0 had mental or emotional imbalances, we stated that the annointed beleived they had the heavenly calling due to their mental, emotional imbalance in August 15, 2001 WT, that they are not accountable.

    Like i said probably way of scale but the part where they say they do not know or care to know how many annointed we do not keep lists is another way for GB to get out of a liabel court cases esp for GB 2.0.

    Also what baffles me is that they do not know or care to know who the annointed = faithful and discreet slave are but they state they are also the ones taking the lead and feeding the followers the accurate oops BS knowledge today.

    This is my personal opinion, I felt exactly the same when i heard the generation talk being delivered at the 2010 convention, removing themselves further and further away from any kind of accountability in double speak.

    Happyexjw



  • agonus
    agonus

    Watchtower Comments

    Watch the video featured on the home page, "Jehovah's Witnesses Memorial 2009". A quote from a 1996 article mirrors the same sentiment about many partakers likely doing so as the result of "emotional" or "mental" issues.

    Could this not apply to, I don't know, the GB member (Jackson?) who has made a big whoop-de-doo from the platform about his experiences in Vietnam?

    Tell me, are there no emotions involved in publicly declaring yourself as one of the few remaining members of the Bride of Christ?

  • JW GoneBad
    JW GoneBad

    happyexjw: good point.

    To further the case regarding WTBTS' need to know in the past about how many anointed or those partaking there are: The instruction to either the servers or attendants at past memorials always and I stress always (unless I'm mistaken) has been to keep count/track of those partaking, report it to a member of the service committee and it goes thru the channels.........and who ultimatley winds up with the worldwide tally...................'Mother'. Why? Because she has always 'had a need to know.'

    The organization is all about numbers! Unless of course those numbers begin to backfire, as in this case of those who are currently partaking. Then it changes as this new WT states 'we do not need to know'.

    I think its' the WTBTS who is going thru some 'mental discomfort' right about now over this blunder of their own making!

    Thank you Ultimate Reality.

  • Juan Viejo2
    Juan Viejo2

    If most of the most recent appointees to the Governing Body were still serving in local Kingdom Halls - and partook of the emblems - they most likely would be called in to account for themselves before a bunch of non-"anointed" elders. Everyone in the congregation would immediately suspect that they were mentally imbalanced or faking it.

    Of course, in my mind there is no doubt that everyone on the Governing Body is faking it. If they were "anointed" they wouldn't be treating the rank and file like a bunch of inebriated dodos.

    JV

  • Chariklo
    Chariklo

    Basically, the Convention programme for this summer is all about the Kingdom coming any minute now, just around the corner, almost here...

    And this will go on, and on, and on...

    Let's face it, they are in a muddle over the 144,000 which the rest of the world know has never made sense. Now they're withdrawing from those who partake because if they were to allow that they were genuine (according to their scenario) then the whole 144,000 fiasco would fly out of the window.

    Mentally ill? Those who think they're anointed might be mentally ill? How about those who thought up this whole caboodle, the blood nonsense to keep everyone loyal and united and tp produce willing and loyal martyrs, the extraordinary stories such as Jesus not only arriving (invisibly) in 1914 and actually inspecting all the churches in 1919, sounding a bit like Her Majesty inspecting the troops when she visits a country or is there at Trooping the Colour. (At least we get to see her.) As if Jesus would have examined the whole sorry bunch and decided the WT were the very very best. As if!

    And then there's the thought of how Jesus would have treated those who were mentally ill. Healing, compassion, respect for the individual, reserving his anger for those who exploited the vulnerable...and that brings us back to the WT and the Governing Body all over again.

    Hypocrites, the lot of them.

  • tallguy345
    tallguy345

    Just a thought..

    Being advanced in age as many of the anointed are, if mental illness or disease develops as they grow older, are they then disqualified?

    I can see it now.. anointed alzheimer stricken sister Ernhart, mistaking her grandson's name for Jesus. Jehovah who? That sounds like apostacy to me!!!

    Who are we to determine someones ability to have a relationship with the divine, based on mental capacity/illness.

  • willyloman
    willyloman
    A number of factors—including past religious beliefs or even mental or emotional imbalance—might cause some to assume mistakenly that they have the heavenly calling.

    I could be wrong, but when I first read this I thought, "that sounds familiar." I no longer have the WT resources I once had so I can't look it up but I believe they issued a similar statement decades ago, in answer to a question about a small increase in partakers in a then-recent year. Any scholars out there who could look this up?

  • bobld
    bobld

    Mickey mouse:What do you mean some.I say all should be put in an Asylum.

    The Governing Body(of the USA only) does not need or maintain a world wide list of anointed ones those don't count.

    I always thought this Watchtower religion was a USA ONLY religion.

    B

  • flipper
    flipper

    The entire GB is mentally unstable in a mind control cult. What do we freaking expect ? I put them on the same level as Harold Camping actually. Making promises which will never happen

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