I need support please

by AwSnap 51 Replies latest jw friends

  • mummatron
    mummatron

    Hi AwSnap,

    I just wanted to add that I can totally sympathise with you on this one. My own sister hasn't spoken to me since the night my waters went when I was due to give birth to my 1st baby. At the time it was a very amicable conversation and she seemed genuinely excited that she was about to become an Aunt. The problem was that she'd just started dating a brother who became her husband only 3 months later! So, like the other posters have said, don't underestimate the hold a JW husband can have over his wife. Keep holding out the hand of sisterly friendship if you wish but don't expect anything if you don't wish to become disappointed.

    I had my 2nd baby 6 months ago and haven't even had so much as an acknowledgment of her existence. My DD was recently in hospital for 3 weeks and I'd have hoped that even a Thinking of You or Get Well Soon card would have turned up (I mean come on, what better excuse for doing a spot of ministry time? But alas, nothing!). It hurts but I know I've done my bit. The ball is in her court now.

    I'm sorry I don't know anything about your situation as I'm new to these boards, but I often wonder if things would be different if I were married to my kids' Dad (doubt it though).

    Good luck with the birth, it's all very exciting. Nothing compares to the moment when you hold your 1st child for the 1st time.

  • AwSnap
    AwSnap

    MamaLove, YES! I can soooo relate. a few weeks back, I forwarded an email from our "worldly" aunt who wasnt sure of everyone's emails. It had something to do with news about our grandmother. And I got a brief response from the lil sis: "Thank you for the information." That was it!

    We *were* friends on FB, but I made a comment about 2 Thanksgivings ago that made her feel threatened, even though it was something about how much I love the meaning of Thanksgiving. She took it as a personal insult to their religion. Also, she's told me in the past (one of our last, real conversations a couple years ago) that she feels like I use the phrase "unconditional love" too often. Ummmmm, ok. whatever.

    Its been about 15 years since I faded. I moved away, my records were transferred. I moved a couple more times, and I think my records have been lost. (WOOT WOOT!). I moved back to my hometown about 9 years ago & refuse to move my life again because of what they might think. My first few years away from the jw's was filled with anger-filled comments. But now I just want to live my life and show respect for other's beliefs (and visa versa hopefully). All the jw's around here know that I will never return, but most still smile and talk to me normally (as normally as a jw talks to a 'worldly' person). I've actually heard a bunch of jw's say they didnt even realize I was baptized. lol

    Abiblestudent, thank you. I agree. With that email from above, I included pictures of me opening up the quilt at my baby shower.

    ThinkAboutIt, I just heard that you are going to a mutual friend's house for dinner this evening, and I told her to feel free to let you know who I am

    GL, thank you. Very sound advice.

    Mummatron....I am SO sORRY

  • Scully
    Scully

    AwSnap

    Please don't let the @$$holey-ness you are receiving from your relatives take away from the joy and excitement of your baby's impending arrival.

    Yes, you could use their support at this time.

    Yes, you want to share your excitement with them.

    Yes, you want them to welcome you and your baby and baby-daddy with arms wide open.

    You've done your part - you've tried to include them - you've vocalized your desire to have your sister be a source of support for you as you transition to motherhood. As much as it pains all of us and causes our hearts to break for you, they have answered. They have begged off and put their allegiance to JWs ahead of their blood relationship with you, your husband and your child.

    A baby quilt *is* indeed a lovely gift, but it not a substitute for the relationship you want with your sister. It is not a substitute for love, even though it was clearly made with love. It can't replace the phone conversations you would love to have with your sister every day, or being able to hug her, or pour your heart out to her and have her listen to you and console you and tell you everything will be all right. On some level, I bet it feels like a knife in the heart to have to look at that quilt, knowing that she'd rather give you a token of her love rather than lovingly be in your family's life.

    It's time to focus on you and your baby. At the hospital, ask your postpartum nurses for information about community groups for new parents and try to connect with other new mothers in your neighbourhood. That will give you some much needed social support (and you can do the same for them) at your most vulnerable time in new motherhood.

    Years ago, I had a patient who never had any visitors when her new baby was born - it turned out she was DFd. I don't normally talk about being an exJW with patients, but I saw such pain in her eyes, knowing that her baby's grandparents wanted nothing to do with her or the baby, that I told her that I was an exJW too, and understood the pain and loneliness of being shunned by family members at these pivotal times in life. We talked a lot during the two days she was under my care, and by the time she was ready to go home, she threw her arms around me and thanked me for being there for her when nobody else was.

    I've had other exJW patients since then, all with similar stories of abandonment in their time of need, as they were bringing a child into the world. They all have the same hurt and anguish. And their worst fears are that nobody understands what they are going through, and that they can't talk about it.

    Please, if you need to, talk to us. We are here for you, even if we're miles apart, and even if we never meet face-to-face, we are here for you.

    Love, Scully

  • sleepingbeauty
    sleepingbeauty

    If you gave that quilt back it would close the doors on your friendship forever. Keep it, cherish it & maybe curiousity will get the better of her & she will come to your aid if not now in the future :) Whatever you do keep those doors open & treasure that quilt ... x

  • AwSnap
    AwSnap

    A baby quilt *is* indeed a lovely gift, but it not a substitute for the relationship you want with your sister. It is not a substitute for love, even though it was clearly made with love. It can't replace the phone conversations you would love to have with your sister every day, or being able to hug her, or pour your heart out to her and have her listen to you and console you and tell you everything will be all right. On some level, I bet it feels like a knife in the heart to have to look at that quilt, knowing that she'd rather give you a token of her love rather than lovingly be in your family's life.

    Thanks Scully. You hit the nail on the head. This is EXACTLY what Im thinking & feeling. Seeing that quilt brings back the sad & bitter feelings.... feelings Im usually so good at sticking in the back of my mind so that I can actually enjoy life and blessings that I *do* have. Its all about perspective though....and I'll try to change that so that my baby will know that "Aunty truly loves and cares for her" even though she can't show it in the way we'd like. Thank you everyone else for the kind words. I needed it.

  • sizemik
    sizemik

    Don't lose heart though AwSnap . . . when you send her some pictures you can include the quilt in at least some of them . . . imagine her seeing that . . . Auntie does love and care for her on some level and you can "play to the audience" in that respect. Play your cards right and with time things might change . . . you never know till you give it a chance.

    You must be getting close . . . best wishes.

  • VIII
    VIII

    Hugs and best wishes on your imminent arrival. I hope all is well. I understand how sisters can be and just want to lend my support. You've received some great advice. My sis has been up and down with me so I do understand. Your sis giving you a gift is a step in the right direction.

  • Coffee House Girl
    Coffee House Girl

    I am wishing you early congrats on the new arrival! I would only echo the same comments as everyone else...we all carry the grief of having family that treats us like we are dead- we all were in the borg and did those same things at one time as you said in your opening thread-

    so we understand their actions but it still hurts us when we are on the receiving end of their misplaced loyalty-

    I hope you can have some peace in your last weeks and you have a safe and smooth delivery (is that possible???I've never gone thru it so I give you props!)

    CHG

  • Billy the Ex-Bethelite
    Billy the Ex-Bethelite

    AwSnap,

    I'm sorry you're going through such an upsetting situation with your sister. At this special occasion in your life, your sister should be there for you. But she's not. The only thing I can suggest is to not let the ugliness of the situation spoil things for YOU and your family. At least she sent you a gift and gave an excuse for not being there (not a very good excuse, but an excuse). Hopefully, you still have plenty of other friends that are there to celebrate the blessed event.

    Don't let this situation eat at you too much. It probably goes without saying around here, but you if start feeling depressed or stressed, don't hesitate to get help.

  • AwSnap
    AwSnap

    Thanks . Im still a little bummed about it. But I *do* have some very close friends, and my baby shower was a huge success. More than anything, Im excited for the baby to get here, and Im thankful to have a hubby that *used* to be a jw (so he knows about all the craziness). You're all the help I needed. Thanks again JWN

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