Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 06-12-2011 WT Study (DECISIONS)

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    Comments You Will Not Hear at the 06-12-11 WT Study (APRIL 15, 2011, pages 13-17)(DECISIONS)

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    MAKE DECISIONS

    THAT HONOR GOD

    “The shrewd one considers his steps.”—PROV. 14:15.

    OPENING COMMENTS

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    To incite one another does not mean to control one another. For all his God-given authority, the apostle Paul humbly reminded the Corinthian congregation: ‘We are not the masters over your faith.’ (2 Corinthians 1:24) If like him we humbly realize that it is not our job to determine how much others should do in service to Jehovah, or to regulate their consciences for them in other personal decisions, we will avoid becoming “righteous overmuch,” joyless, rigid, negative, or rule oriented. (Ecclesiastes 7:16) Such qualities do not incite; they oppress.

    Can you think of some “rules” or attempts to determine what others do in the WTS?

    How does the WTS get around having “rules” in the congregation?

    *** w96 9/1 p. 20 par. 3***

    Indeed, Christians are obligated to observe all commands in the Bible that are directed to followers of Christ. And there is more. Jehovah’s organization, as well as individual congregations, has to establish necessary rules and procedures in order to preserve good order. (1 Corinthians 14:33, 40)

    START OF ARTICLE

    1, 2. (a) What should be our primary concern in

    all the decisions that we make? (b) What questions

    will we consider?

    WE LIKELY make dozens of them each

    day. Many are of little lasting consequence.

    Some, though, can have a profound

    impact on our lives. What are they? Decisions.

    In all the decisions that we make, big

    or small, our primary concern is to honor

    God.—Read 1 Corinthians 10:31.

    COMMENTS

    So do jws worry if their decisions please God or the WTS? Why is it so many jws run to the elders or other jws to be told what they should do rather than turning to the Bible or prayer? Is it because their personal decisions are not respected and punishment can follow; do jws really have the power to choose to have a transfusion without WTS repercussions, being labeled as disassociated and having all their jw family and friends shun them?

    2 Do you find it easy to make decisions, or

    is it a challenge for you to do so? If we

    are to progress to Christian maturity, we

    must learn to distinguish right from wrong

    and then make decisions that reflect our

    own convictions, not those of someone else.

    (Rom. 12:1, 2; Heb. 5:14) What are some other

    compelling reasons why we need to learn

    to make good decisions? Why is it sometimes

    so difficult to make them? And what

    steps can we take to make sure that the

    decisions we make honor God?

    COMMENTS

    It is a challenge if you are trying to figure out what the WTS and its representatives, the elders, think what is the right thing and the WTS speaks out of both sides of their mouth, base their opinions on UNWRITTEN rules, vary from congregation to congregation, are confusing, are “adjusted” or “clarified.”

    How many jws know what is right from wrong: oral sex, don’t use stored blood, use products made from stored blood, bestiality or homosexuality basis of jw divorce?

    Own convictions? You also hear, “the magazine says” “the paragraph says” at many meetings said to be teaching the bible.

    ***w98 3/15 p. 19 par. 4 ***

    In order to avoid misunderstandings, Jehovah’s Witnesses try to be careful about how they express themselves. Instead of saying, “the Society teaches,” many Witnesses prefer to use such expressions as, “the Bible says” or, “I understand the Bible to teach.” In this way they emphasize the personal decision that each Witness has made in accepting Bible teachings and also avoid giving the false impression that Witnesses are somehow bound to the dictates of some religious sect.

    Why Make Decisions at All?

    3. What should we not allow to interfere with our

    decision-making process?

    3 If we are indecisive when Bible standards

    are involved, our schoolmates or workmates

    may conclude that we are not really convinced

    of our beliefs and therefore are easily

    influenced. They may lie, cheat, or steal and

    then try to persuade us to “follow after the

    crowd” by joining them or at least by covering

    up for them. (Ex. 23:2) However, a person

    who knows how to make decisions that

    honor God will not permit fear or a desire for

    acceptance to cause him to behave in a way

    that conflicts with his Bible-trained conscience.—

    Rom. 13:5.

    COMMENTS

    Bible standards = as interpreted or “explained” by the WTS

    Schoolmates or workmates may concluded that we are not really convinced—probably because these jws aren’t

    Or non-jws may see that jws lie, cheat or steal and persuade them to follow…

    Desire of acceptance – accepted by other jws motivates, not pleasing God

    4. Why might others want to make decisions

    for us?

    4 Not all who want to make decisions for

    us mean us harm. Well-intentioned friends

    might insist that we follow their advice. If we

    are living away from home, our relatives

    likely still have deep concern for our well being

    and may feel compelled to continue to

    involve themselves in important decisions

    we face. For instance, consider the matter of

    medical treatment. The Bible clearly condemns

    the misuse of blood. (Acts 15:28, 29)

    Other matters that have to do with health

    care, though, are not clear-cut and require

    that each of us make a personal decision as

    to what treatment we will accept or reject.*

    Our loved ones may have strong opinions

    on these issues. However, when deciding

    about those matters, each dedicated, baptized

    Christian needs to carry “his own load”

    of responsibility. (Gal. 6:4, 5) Our primary

    concern is to maintain a good conscience

    before God, not men.—1 Tim. 1:5.

    *For a discussion of this subject, see the insert “How

    Do I View Blood Fractions and Medical Procedures Involving

    My Own Blood?” published in Our Kingdom

    Ministry of November 2006, pages 3-6.

    COMMENTS

    How many jws know that deciding to use hemoglobin-based products (conscience matter now per WTS) is choosing to use human or animal blood that has not been poured out but processed into a product used to transfuse humans?

    Well-intentioned JW friends and family?

    5. How can we avoid suffering shipwreck of our

    faith?

    5 Indecision can place us in grave danger.

    The disciple James wrote that an indecisive

    Person is “unsteady in all his ways.” (Jas.1:8)

    Like a man in a rudderless boat on a stormy

    sea, he will be tossed about by shifting human

    opinion. How easy it would be for such

    a person to suffer shipwreck of his faith and

    then blame others for his sad situation!

    (1 Tim. 1:19) How can we avoid that outcome?

    We must become “stabilized in the

    faith.” (Read Colossians 2:6, 7.) To achieve

    stability, we need to learn to make decisions

    that reflect our faith in God’s inspired Word.

    (2 Tim. 3:14-17) What, though, may hinder

    our ability to make good decisions?

    COMMENTS

    The WTS uses snippets of scriptures and makes strange applications.

    Shifting human opinion = WTS flipflop doctrines

    So is the bible enough to make decisions per the WTS?

    Why Decisions Can Be Difficult to Make

    6. How might fear affect us?

    6 Fear may paralyze us—fear of making the

    wrong decision, fear of failure, or fear of appearing

    foolish to others. Those concerns

    are understandable. Nobody wants to make

    a poor decision, one that causes trouble and

    possibly shame. Even so, love of God and his

    Word can help us shrink our fears. In what

    ways? Love of God will motivate us always to

    consult his Word and Bible-based publications

    before we make important decisions.

    We will thus minimize the number of mistakes

    we make. Why? Because the Bible can

    “give to the inexperienced ones shrewdness,

    to a young man knowledge and thinking

    ability.”—Prov. 1:4.

    COMMENTS

    Fear of making the wrong decision per the elders and/or WTS and end up df’d? or marked poor association?

    Shamed by God or the WTS?

    And here we have it “his Word AND Bible-based publications.” What Bible-based publications did Moses, Jesus, Paul use?

    7. King David’s example can teach us what?

    7 Will we always make the right decision?

    No. All of us make mistakes. (Rom. 3:23)

    King David, for example, was a wise and

    faithful man. Yet, he at times made poor decisions

    that caused suffering to himself and

    others. (2 Sam. 12:9-12) Nevertheless, David

    did not let his mistakes undermine his ability

    to make decisions that had God’s favor.

    (1 Ki. 15:4, 5) We can be decisive despite past

    mistakes if, like David, we remember that

    Jehovah will overlook our errors and forgive

    our sins. He will continue to support

    those who love and obey him.—Ps. 51:1-4,

    7-10.

    COMMENTS

    So David made a MISTAKE by having sex with another man’s wife (when he already had several wives) and when his sin would be found out because of that woman’s pregnancy, arranged for the woman’s husband to be killed?

    He was able to make more decisions because he was not put to death, which was the requirement under the Law for adulterers and murderers, no leeway for “repentance.” David did not confess but rather Nathan confronted him with his sins.

    Later David had a census made although God said not to, and how was “David” punished, he was allowed to chose his punishment which led to 70,000 innocent people dying (innocent in that they did not choose to have a census done).

    8. What do we learn from the apostle Paul’s comments

    about marriage?

    8 We can lessen the anxiety we feel about

    making decisions. How? By realizing that

    sometimes there are several correct paths to

    choose from. Consider the way the apostle

    Paul reasoned on the subject of marriage.

    Under inspiration he wrote: “If anyone

    thinks he is behaving improperly toward his

    virginity, if that is past the bloom of youth,

    and this is the way it should take place, let

    him do what he wants; he does not sin. Let

    them marry. But if anyone stands settled in

    his heart, having no necessity, but has authority

    over his own will and has made this

    decision in his own heart, to keep his own

    virginity, he will do well.” (1 Cor. 7:36-38)

    Paul recommended singleness as the best

    course, but it was not the only right option.

    COMMENTS

    Several correct paths? All WTS approved of course.

    Marriage or singleness…but Paul made it clear that choosing singleness was better.

    Rutherford discourage marriage and children before Armaggedon

    Salvation (Rutherford)

    Seeing that the divine mandate was given only to righteous men or those counted righteous by

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    the Lord, and that the great multitude who survive the battle of Armageddon will be the only ones of the human race to abide on the earth, and that those of the great multitude will be counted righteous by the Lord by reason of their faith and obedience, is it not reasonable and Scriptural to conclude that the members of the great multitude will carry out the divine mandate according to the will of Jehovah God under the immediate command and direction of Christ? The question then arises, Since the Lord is now gathering his "other sheep", who will form the great multitude, should those begin now to marry and bring forth children in fulfillment of the divine mandate? No, is the answer; which the Scriptures fully support. The sons of Noah and their wives had no children during the flood. There is no evidence that any children were taken into the ark. Only eight persons came forth from the ark, and that is conclusive proof that no children were born to Noah's sons either before the flood or during the flood. (Genesis 7:13; 8:16) In the prophetic picture it is shown that no children were born to Noah's sons and their wives until after the flood, and the first one mentioned was born two years after the flood. (Genesis 11:10)

    http://www.strictlygenteel.co.uk/salvation/salvation7.html

    And the WTS spent most of the early 1950’s changing that:

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    But we do unequivocally maintain that the purpose of marriage before God is the production of children, and hence if any married couples want children now, before Armageddon, that is perfectly proper and no one should criticize them for so doing, thereby meddling in their business. Neither should any be criticized for not having children, nor should we meddle in as to their reason why not. Private marital affairs are not the business of outsiders. Children are not to be viewed as a hindrance to serving God and hence to be unwanted.

    *** w53 4/1 p. 223***

    Whether married couples in the truth want to have children or not is for them to decide, not us. Each couple must consider its own circumstances and its own purposes in view, and decide the matter and adopt a course and then take the responsibility before God for such course and its consequences. But we do unequivocally maintain that the purpose of marriage before God is the production of children, and hence if any married couples want children now, before Armageddon, that is perfectly proper and no one should criticize them for so doing, thereby meddling in their business. Neither should any be criticized for not having children, nor should we meddle in as to their reason why not. Private marital affairs are not the business of outsiders.”

    9. Should we be concerned about how others view

    our decisions? Explain.

    9 Should we be concerned with how others

    view the decisions that we make? To

    some degree. Note what Paul said on the

    matter of eating foods that might seem to

    have been sacrificed to idols. He acknowledged

    that a decision may not in itself be

    wrong, yet it could cause harm to someone

    with a weak conscience. What was Paul’s resolve?

    “If food makes my brother stumble,”

    he wrote, “I will never again eat flesh at all,

    that I may not make my brother stumble.”

    (1 Cor. 8:4-13)We too need to consider how

    our decisions will affect the consciences of

    others. Of course, our main concern is the

    effect that our choices will have on our

    friendship with Jehovah. (Read Romans 14:

    1-4.) What Bible principles will help us to

    make decisions that honor God?

    COMMENTS

    Concerned with how others view our decisions = look up “stumbling” in the WTS publications…If there is even ONE person that MIGHT be stumbled, you should not do it.

    Elders would come to me and tell me that some unnamed person in the congregation was being stumbled by what I was doing, but would not tell me who so I could apply Matthew 18 and talk to them directly. If I continued, the elder would threaten me with being marked or considered “bad” association, that I would not others like me because of my decision.

    But in the end I would ask the elder if Paul should have allowed Peter to continue to shun the Gentile Christians in Galatians?

    What experiences did you have?

    Six Steps to Making Good Decisions

    10, 11. (a) How can we avoid being presumptuous

    within the family? (b) What should elders keep in

    mind when making decisions that affect the congregation?

    10 Avoid being presumptuous. Before

    choosing a course of action, we need

    to ask ourselves, ‘Is this my decision to

    make?’ King Solomon wrote: “Has presumptuousness

    come? Then dishonor will come; but wisdom

    is with the modest ones.”—Prov. 11:2.

    COMMENTS

    If our decisions are our personal responsibility and we are have to answer to God, how are they presumptuous?

    Paragraph 4:

    However, when deciding about those matters, each dedicated, baptized

    Christian needs to carry “his own load” of responsibility.

    11 Parents may grant their children the opportunity

    to make some decisions, but children

    should not just assume such authority.

    (Col. 3:20) Wives and mothers have a measure

    of authority within the family but do

    well to recognize the headship of their husbands.

    (Prov. 1:8; 31:10-18; Eph. 5:23) Likewise,

    husbands need to recognize that their

    authority is limited and that they are subject

    to Christ. (1 Cor. 11:3) Elders make decisions

    that affect the congregation. However,

    they make sure that they “do not go beyond

    the things that are written” in God’s

    Word. (1 Cor. 4:6) They also follow closely

    the direction they receive from the faithful

    slave. (Matt. 24:45-47) We can save ourselves

    and others much anxiety and grief if we

    modestly make decisions only when we

    have been granted the authority to do so.

    COMMENTS

    When do parents not have authority: pedophiles, child beaters, using children to steal….?

    Does a woman have to obey husband when asked to break God’s or Caesar’s laws?

    What are “the things written”? Is the scripture properly applied per WTS standards?

    Pharisees, follow what they do?

    What decisions are they alluding to?

    An indecisive person is like a man

    in a rudderless boat on a stormy sea

    12. (a) Why should we do research? (b) Explain

    how a person could do such research.

    12 Do research. “The plans of the diligent

    one surely make for advantage,” wrote Solomon,

    “but everyone that is hasty surely

    heads for want.” (Prov. 21:5) For example,

    are you considering a business proposal? Do

    not let emotion rule. Gather all the relevant

    facts, seek the counsel of those familiar

    with such things, and determine what Bible

    principles have a bearing on the matter.

    (Prov. 20:18) To organize your research, prepare

    two lists—one detailing the benefits,

    the other the liabilities. Before you make

    a decision, “calculate the expense.” (Luke 14:28)

    Consider the potential impact that your

    decision will have not only on your financial

    health but also on your spiritual well-being.

    It takes time and effort to do research. But by

    doing so, you may avoid making hasty decisions

    that lead to unnecessary anxiety.

    COMMENTS

    Research outside WTS publications? Advice from non-jws?

    Business proposal—not with a jw because there is no ability to sue per the WTS.

    So what does the WTS mean—no working on meeting nights…brothers who have…?

    Hasty decisions—baptisms at 6 years old?

    13. (a) What assurance is found at James 1:5?

    (b) How can praying for wisdom help us?

    13 Pray for wisdom. Our decisions will honor

    God only if we invite him to help us in

    making them. The disciple James wrote: “If

    any one of you is lacking in wisdom, let him

    keep on asking God, for he gives generously

    to all and without reproaching; and it will be

    given him.” (Jas. 1:5) There is no shame in

    admitting that we need God’s wisdom to

    help us make decisions. (Prov. 3:5, 6) After

    all, relying purely on our own understanding

    can easily misguide us. When we pray for

    wisdom and search out the principles in

    God’s Word, we allow holy spirit to help us

    discern our real motives for wanting to take

    a certain course of action.—Heb. 4:12; read

    James 1:22-25.

    COMMENTS

    How does God give jws wisdom; is reading the Bible enough along with holy spirit or does the WTS have to provide the “food”? Is the Bible insufficient?

    No shame in admitting we need WTS wisdom—why is it that blood must be poured out in the Bible but the WTS says that it can be stored and when expired be used to make hemoglobin-based products?

    Search only in God’s word…help us discern our real motives or wait for the elders to tell us what we think and feel and should think and feel?

    14. Why should we avoid procrastination?

    14 Make the decision. Do not rush straight

    to this step before doing research and praying

    for wisdom. A wise person takes time to

    ‘consider his steps.’ (Prov. 14:15) On the other

    hand, do not procrastinate. A procrastinator

    may come up with outlandish excuses

    for not taking action. (Prov. 22:13) But he

    still makes a decision—he decides, in effect,

    to let others control his life.

    COMMENTS

    Why waste your time doing research when you can go to an elder and have him tell you want to think, feel and do?

    What would be an outlandish excuse? Examples, please.

    To let others control his lives—like the WTS?

    15, 16. What is involved in implementing a decision?

    15 Implement the decision. The effort we

    expend to make a good decision can be wasted

    if we do not follow through and vigorously

    implement it. “All that your hand finds to

    do, do with your very power,” wrote Solomon.

    (Eccl. 9:10) To succeed, we must

    be willing to allocate the resources needed

    to implement our decisions. For example,

    a congregation publisher might decide to

    pioneer. Will he succeed? He likely will if he

    does not allow excessive secular work and

    recreation to sap his strength and rob him of

    the time he needs to take care of his ministry.

    COMMENTS

    VIGOROUSLY implement it….what does that mean?

    Allocate the resources…what is EXCESSIVE secular work or recreation?

    When I went to the conventions, I usually stayed in the same hotel as the elders and their families. In all my experience with non-jws I had never seen the excessive drinking that I saw in their rooms, the booze bottles in the trash….after which they had to get up and go to the convention, give a talk, have a demo, or supervise a department. I wonder what the maids would say?

    16 The best decisions are seldom the easiest

    to implement. Why? Because “the whole

    world is lying in the power of the wicked

    one.” (1 John 5:19) We must wrestle against

    “the world rulers of this darkness, against

    the wicked spirit forces in the heavenly

    places.” (Eph. 6:12) Both the apostle Paul

    and the disciple Jude indicated that those

    who decide to honor God will have a fight

    on their hands.—1 Tim. 6:12; Jude 3.

    COMMENTS

    The non-jws have no interest in leading us down the path. They are not interested in making us trip. Does the WTS say you should think, the devil made me do it?

    *** w9312/1p.27***

    However, as Brother Barber indicated, in spite of our imperfection, “it is quite possible to be wholly devoted to God.” He added: “No one can really say: ‘The Devil made me do it.’”

    *** w952/1pp.28-29?***

    “It is God’s will.” “Blame it on the Devil.” Probably the ultimate excuse is to blame either God or the Devil for our own failures. It is true that God or Satan may influence some events in our lives. However, some believe that practically everything, good or bad, in their life is the result of intervention by God or by Satan. It is as if nothing that happened to them was a consequence of their own actions. “If God wants me to have that new car, he will see to it that I get it.” Such ones often live their lives recklessly, making financial and other decisions on the assumption that God will save them. If their imprudent actions result in some disaster, economic or otherwise, they blame the Devil. To do something rash without first ‘counting the cost’ and then to blame Satan for the failure, or worse yet, to expect Jehovah to intervene, would be not only presumptuous but also contrary to Scripture.—Luke 14:28, 29.

    Steps to Making Good Decisions

    1 Avoid Being Presumptuous

    2 Do Research

    3 Pray for Wisdom

    4 Make the Decision

    5 Implement the Decision

    6 Review and Adjust

    17. When it comes to the decisions that we make,

    what does Jehovah expect of us?

    17 Review the decision and make adjustments

    if needed. Not all decisions work out

    exactly as planned. “Time and unforeseen

    occurrence” befall us all. (Eccl. 9:11) Even so,

    Jehovah expects us to persevere with some

    decisions though we may encounter trials. A

    person’s decision to dedicate his life to Jehovah

    or to make a marriage vow is not negotiable.

    God expects us to live up to such

    decisions. (Read Psalm 15:1, 2, 4.) Most decisions,

    though, are less weighty. A wise person

    will from time to time review the decisions

    he has made. He will not let pride or

    stubbornness prevent him from adjusting or

    even reversing a decision. (Prov. 16:18) His

    prime concern is to make sure that his life

    course continues to honor God.

    COMMENTS

    How does a decision not work out as planned? Examples!

    The WTS teaches not dedication/baptism is not optional but marriage is. Did the WTS live up to their dates of 1914, 1915, 1920, 1925, 1940’s, 1975, 1984, 1994? Or were they just reviewing their “decisions” and “adjusting”?

    Train Others to Make Decisions That Honor God

    18. How can parents train their children to make

    good decisions?

    18 Parents can do much to help their children

    learn how to make decisions that

    honor God. A fine example is one of the

    best teachers. (Luke 6:40) When appropriate,

    parents can explain to their children

    which steps they themselves took to make a

    certain decision. They may also want to allow

    their children to make some decisions

    for themselves and then commend them

    when the decision works out well. What,

    though, if a child makes a poor decision?

    A parent’s first inclination may be to shield

    the child from the consequences, but doing

    so may not always be in the child’s best interests.

    For example, the parent may allow

    the child to obtain a driver’s license. Suppose

    the child were to break a traffic law and

    receive a fine. The parent could pay the

    fine. However, if the child is required to

    work to pay off the fine, he is more likely

    to learn to be responsible for his actions.

    —Rom. 13:4.

    COMMENTS

    “fine example the best teacher”—and what do the little ones of jws see? My mother the holy jw would scream and yell obscenities at my father and then wonder why he did not want to come to the KH to be with all the other hypocritical jws.

    So what decisions can children be allowed to make, examples! When they get baptized?

    Shield child from consequences….do they see their parents present one face at the KH and another at home, “shielding”?

    So life is a story about driving…what traffic law, DUI? How does the child work if they have to go to school and all the meetings and “field service” and avoid EXCESSIVE work and recreation?

    19. What should we teach our Bible students, and

    how can we do so?

    19 Jesus told his followers to teach others.

    (Matt. 28:20) One of the most important lessons

    we can teach Bible students is how to

    make good decisions. To do so effectively, we

    must resist the urge to tell them how to act. It

    is much better for us to teach them to reason

    on Bible principles so that they can decide

    for themselves how to act. After all, “each of

    us will render an account for himself to

    God.” (Rom. 14:12) All of us, therefore, have

    compelling reason for making decisions that

    honor God.

    COMMENTS

    “OUR” Bible students….teach them to reach the answer out of the paragraph like people do at the KH.

    Reason = teach them to run to you or the elders to learn how they should think

    How Would You Answer?

    Why do we need to learn how to

    make decisions?

    How might fear affect us, and how

    can we overcome our fears?

    What six steps can we take to make

    sure that our decisions honor God

    CONCLUDING COMMENTS

    Next week, “THE FRUITAGE OF THE SPIRIT” GLORIFIES GOD.”

    Love, Blondie

  • Mary
    Mary
    If we are to progress to Christian maturity, we must learn to distinguish right from wrong and then make decisions that reflect our own convictions, not those of someone else.

    Ya. Riiiiiiiight. No one who goes to the KH is allowed to "distinguish right from wrong" and then "make decisions that reflect [their] own convictions". Virtually everything---from brothers wearing a beard to celebrating a birthday to refusing a life-saving blood transfusion is determined not from any individual 'Christian maturity', but from the Boardroom of the a group of senile old men who change doctrine more often than a politician changes a mistress. At the height of the 'Big Apostacy' in the early 1980s, there was left no doubt in a Dub's mind that they cannot make decisions based on their own conviction, especially when it came to doctrinal matters:

    "...Yet there are some who point out that the organization has had to make adjustments before, and so they argue: "This shows that we have to make up our own mind on what to believe." This is independent thinking. Why is it so dangerous?

    Such thinking is an evidence of pride. And the Bible says: "Pride is before a crash, and a haughty spirit before stumbling." (Proverbs 16:18) If we get to thinking that we know better than the organization, we should ask ourselves: "Where did we learn Bible truth in the first place? Would we know the way of the truth if it had not been for guidance from the organization? Really, can we get along without the direction of God's organization?" No, we cannot!-Compare Acts 15:2, 28, 29; 16:4, 5.--- w83 1/15 p. 27 pars. 19-20 Armed for the Fight Against Wicked Spirits ***

    The Bible clearly condemns the misuse of blood. (Acts 15:28, 29) Other matters that have to do with health care, though, are not clear-cut and require that each of us make a personal decision as to what treatment we will accept or reject.* Our loved ones may have strong opinions on these issues. However, when deciding about those matters, each dedicated, baptized Christian needs to carry "his own load" of responsibility. (Gal. 6:4, 5) Our primary concern is to maintain a good conscience before God, not men.-1 Tim. 1:5.

    Personal decisions? Ya, that's like a guy holding a gun to your head demanding your money and you giving it to him. Was it done using your own personal decision? Technically yes, but considering the alternative he was giving you, it wasn't much of a choice. Likewise when it comes to a Witness making a 'personal decision' about blood transfusions. When you have a spiritual gun pointed at your head (go ahead---take that transfusion and make our day), it's not much of a 'personal decision is it:

    "Questions from Readers:

    "In view of the seriousness of taking blood into the human system by a transfusion, would violation of the Holy Scriptures in this regard subject the dedicated, baptized receiver of blood transfusion to being disfellowshipped from the Christian congregation?" "The inspired Holy Scriptures answer yes."----- Watchtower, January 15, 1961, p. 63

    Note what Paul said on the matter of eating foods that might seem to have been sacrificed to idols. He acknowledged that a decision may not in itself be wrong, yet it could cause harm to someone with a weak conscience. What was Paul's resolve? "If food makes my brother stumble," he wrote, "I will never again eat flesh at all, that I may not make my brother stumble." (1 Cor. 8:4-13)

    Hang on here. The Witnesses use Acts 15:29 to 'prove' that blood transfusions are wrong, wrong, wrong and there is no leeway for taking one, even in the face of death. That scripture says: "keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from things strangled and from fornication". Yet when it comes to eating food that had been sacrificed to idols, it is not a blanket condemnation of it (although it was discouraged, lest you make someone stumble in their faith). Since blood, eating food offered to idols and fornication are all mentioned in one breath, why is taking a blood transfusion to save your life a disfellowshipping offense while eating food sacrificed to an idol (if we actually still did this), is only a 'conscience matter'??

    but children should not just assume such authority. (Col. 3:20) Wives and mothers have a measure of authority within the family but do well to recognize the headship of their husbands. (Prov. 1:8; 31:10-18; Eph. 5:23) Likewise, husbands need to recognize that their authority is limited and that they are subject to Christ. (1 Cor. 11:3) Elders make decisions that affect the congregation. However, they make sure that they "do not go beyond the things that are written" in God's Word. (1 Cor. 4:6) They also follow closely the direction they receive from the faithful slave. (Matt. 24:45-47)

    Notice how of all the groups of people mentioned here, that only the 'faithful slave' has no one to answer to?

    One of the most important lessons we can teach Bible students is how to make good decisions. To do so effectively, we must resist the urge to tell them how to act. It is much better for us to teach them to reason on Bible principles so that they can decide for themselves how to act. After all, "each of us will render an account for himself to God."

    Ya. So what if your kid decides they want to go to university? Are the parents going to support their decision? Are the elders? The rest of the congregation? Not bloody likely. While it's not a disfellowshipping offense, the parents will be viewed as either being 'spiritually weak' or 'puffed up with pride' and the kid will be viewed as being 'materialistic' and 'lacking in faith' as to 'how close to the end of this System of Things' we are.

    These study articles seem to be getting more mind-numbing each friggin week!!

  • Quendi
    Quendi

    Blondie:

    Thank you once again for your review. I especially appreciated the point you raised about the WTS equating its own publications with the Bible itself. Witnesses are never told to consult the Bible alone when seeking information with respect to making decisions. Nor are they told that praying to God is enough. Instead, the WTS publications are almost always mentioned in the same breath as the Bible and prayer.

    At my last meeting with my judicial committee, I was told that the only way I could gain reinstatement was to acknowledge that the WTS was God's exclusive channel for communicating truth to mankind. In other words, unless I embraced WTS publications as sources of divine wisdom, my request for reinstatement would be summarily denied. For me that was the last straw. There was no way I was going to equate the word of fallible men with the word of God. I had already come to realize this was going to be the condition for readmittance, but I wanted to hear it come straight from the elders' mouths.

    This latest Watchtower review merely underscores the fact that this religion is a cult. It is bad enough that inconsistent, twisted thinking is presented as sound reasoning with a Scriptural basis. What is worse is the great harm being done to millions of JWs who are convinced that following WTS directions will lead them to everlasting life. I rejoice that I have escaped the clutches of this group. Your contributions strengthen my resolve never to return.

    Quendi

  • therevealer
    therevealer

    Whoa at paragraph 4.

  • therevealer
    therevealer

    paragraph 3 - why does it go from me (not literally me) /the good witness making decisions, to the involvement of schoolmates and workmates? So that once again they (the worldly ones/the world) can be villified. Why make the assumption that these ones are liars, cheaters, or theifs. And then of course they want "us" to join or support them. I thought that they were supposed to keep a comfortable distance from these ones inspite of having to be in amongst them. I can truly say that I never, ever faced this issue in my years in the "untruth".

  • Reopened Mind
    Reopened Mind

    When I was pregnant with our youngest child (early 80's) my husband and I decided we didn't want any more children so we asked my doctor to perform a tubal ligation which he did during my caesarian. We had done our research in the publications and came to the conclusion that it in the final analysis it was a PERSONAL DECISION even though sterilization was generally discouraged. Many of the sisters in the congregation had also had their tubes tied so we didn't think too much about it when we make known that I too had the operation. Well one day two elders dressed in suits and carrying Bibles showed up at our door and wanted us to explain. It seems our biggest mistake was not having my tubes tied but talking about it!!

    Reopened Mind

  • blondie
    blondie

    Thanks everyone for your experiences and comments. What a farce and deception it is that the WTS presents that anyone in the WTS can make a personal decision without it agreeing with the WTS.

  • Chariklo
    Chariklo

    bookmarking, no time to read it through now

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    This whole article contradicts itself. First, they tell people that they need to make their own decisions. Then, they have every excuse to make doing so even more dangerous.

    To start, there is the "stumbling others" card. There are so many ways to "stumble" others. For one thing, suppose I make a tape or mini disc, or MP3 playlist, and include a "bad" song. I had listened to that "bad" song for more than 15 years before becoming a witless, including during a period where I had excellent opportunities to make good on what the song said--without incident. Now, including it is stumbling others--even though it looks like a generic disc or tape, and there is only a code number on it. Stumbling others?

    Another good way to stumble others is via Christmas. How often do you hear that "It's really only a winter song" excuse? And still people are stumbled when someone listens to something commonly associated with Christmas. And there are quite a few products only available during specific holidays, or versions of products (holiday Hersheys products with special wrappers) only available around the holidays. Or, try putting up a snowman and some snowflakes in December. Another good way to stumble others is by ordering eggnog or peppermint stick ice cream during December or cherry flavored ice cream in early February.

    Yet another major obstacle is "brazen conduct". The college issue comes to mind--decide to head to college, and they will say that you need to retract that decision and pio-sneer. Suppose you do a pilot run on pio-sneering, and struggle to reach 35 or 40 hours and decide that you would rather be a steady 15-20 hour publisher? They will push you until you are forced to pio-sneer. If you don't, they can classify it as "brazen conduct". All they need is to get Brother Hounder to hound you into quitting your job or college, or to put in that extra 10-15 hours so you can pio-sneer, and then you only get 15-20 hours next month, they call it "brazen conduct".

    Another issue that I think will come up a lot more is investment silver. Suppose someone has quite a bit of money in the bank and strongly believes it is about to become toilet paper. So they take it out and buy a couple of monster boxes of silver. Brother Hounder finds out, and insists that it is "not trusting in Jehovah". Now, this person holds onto the silver--and, just as the hyperinflation breaks out on time, the hounders call a "brazen conduct" judicial hearing. The ideal would be to sell or donate the silver into the Worldwide Pedophile Defense Fund or throw it away, but distributing it to all those now experiencing extreme hardship would do. Still, this person decides to hold onto those monster boxes--and gets threatened with destruction for "not trusting in Jehovah" compounded with "brazen conduct".

    And I am sure there are many more, including dress and grooming, conduct at the a$$emblies, attending a different a$$embly to make things easier, and even what car to drive in field circus.

  • Mary
    Mary
    blondie said: What a farce and deception it is that the WTS presents that anyone in the WTS can make a personal decision without it agreeing with the WTS.

    Yep. It's almost as bad as the article they had a couple of years ago saying that 'no one should be forced to choose between their religion and their family" when Crooklyn forces this choice on millions of people every single day.

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