Can god make a burrito soooo hot that even he can't eat it?
Circular logic at it's best!
A thought just occurred to me about prior to the creation of the universe
by poppers 23 Replies latest jw friends
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Iconoclast
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Elsewhere
Answering such a question would requre one to measure the deity in question.
Until someone develops some form of instrumentation capable of measureing the properties of the deity, such a question cannot be answered.
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No Room For George
Jaheshua preceded Jaheshua Miscajah, and both became one when Miscajah resurrected Jaheshua.
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poppers
Answering such a question would requre one to measure the deity in question.
Until someone develops some form of instrumentation capable of measureing the properties of the deity, such a question cannot be answered.
I agree. The way I see it, people create God in the image that works best for them. The trouble is, nobody actually knows what God is; people only think they know what God is, largely based on what others say about him/her/it. If they are honest with themselves they will see that they are just taking on faith what someone else has said about God, finding the definition that they most agree with. In fact, God is a complete mystery (assuming he/she/it even exists), and measuring the properties of a deity isn't possible because God, by definition, is immeasurable, without limitation. Only something that is measurable and with limitation could be known with certainty, so how can any instrument possibly measure the immeasurable? It'll never happen because it's an impossibility.
I guess this is the point of my thread, to illustrate that it isn't possible to know anything about God, and whether or not there would be a God the son and God the holy spirit if creation hadn't happened. Look at the differences of opinion post creation about God. Knowing anything "prior" to creation, much less the nature of God, is itself unknowable and to assert anything about it can only be speculative. A lot of interesting ideas can be brought forth, but none of them can come to an answer that everyone will agree on. In the end, what people are left with are their personal beliefs about the whole thing. So anyone who thinks they know the answer to my question is standing on a set of ideas only.
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Quarterback
That's a long time ago ...can't remember much about that...that was when the Dead Sea was only sick.
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Ding
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but God lacks for nothing, right? So why fellowship?
I'm saying it's part of what the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit share.
They do not lack for it.
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poppers
I'm saying it's part of what the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit share.
What is the basis for your assertion? What is the purpose of God the son and God the holy spirit if there is no creation? How do you know that they would even exist to begin with?
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gubberningbody
There are problems with the so-called creation event of the "Big Bang", namely that though we cannot know what happened before this event, we cannot say that this event was THE begining, though certainly it was A, beginning. "The" begining of our universe is actually as "ho"-less as is John 1:1.
The time-space continuum may very well be as recursive in its dimensions as a Klein bottle or a Mobius strip. We could in point of fact be reusing time-space even as we speak and though we are uncomfortable with infinity, it may very well be that this whole thing is tied off in a rather large and rolling loop and as each loop loops, some different combinations occur. This may also be happening in parallel looping time-space structures. The whole may be permeated with mind as a substance of sorts that becomes aware of at times and agnostic at other times with regard to its own fractured nature perceiving "others", when no "others" exist, except from a relative and finite perspective.
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poppers
Now I find that interesting, gubberningbody.
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gubberningbody
You ask good questions, poppers.
I always think of Sir Karl Popper, the philosopher who was the first I'd read who outlined the scientific method.