Please Read These Two Chapters ...

snowbird

... and post what you think about them.

Thanks.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/22.htm

http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/23.htm

I screwed up somewhere.

Jam's thread about Job got me to thinking about this.

Syl

Chariklo

Is there a link to the thread about Job that you mention?

I've read the two chapters. Lots to think about. No comments as yet, bookmarking.

wannabefree

It is my understanding that the book called Jasher, which is referred to in the Bible, has never been found and that translations today are the result of a forgery.

snowbird

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/212096/1/Job-suffering-A-ridiculous-story

For Chariklo.

That may be true, Wanna.

But, what an interesting forgery!

I can't get enough of it.

Syl

journey-on

Darn IE9!!!! I always have to remember to hit the compatibility button!

Like Chariklo, many things came to mind. The first was that the same "story" in Job happened to Abraham. Satan appeared before God and suggested to the Lord that Abraham had grown complacent in his dedication and worship ever since Isaac had been born, and that he needed to be tested by having his beloved Isaac offered as a sacrifcice.

journey-on

I'm not sure what you're thinking, Sylvia, but I'll throw another thought out there:

Before God ever told Abraham to offer up Isaac, Isaac himself had willingly made the offer in a conversation with Ishmael. God heard him tell his brother that he would gladly give his life up for his father (both heavenly and earthly father.) So, when Satan appeared before the Lord with his suggestion, God already knew what the outcome would be.

journey-on

I found verses 70 thru 75 of the second text very interesting regarding the ram. (Lots of room for discussion there if anyone chooses to do so.)_______

Also, I think probably the only real unconditional love that exists in the world is between a mother and her child. The account described in the book of Jasher describes Sarah's love for Isaac in much more detail than the biblical account does. Most of us mothers can relate to the Jasher account totally:

Sarah is beside herself with worry and concern over Isaac going off on this journey with Abraham. The description of this heartache is palpable. She agonizes over this trip, admonishing Abraham to look after him carefully, to stay near him, to not let him wander off alone, etc. She tells Abraham that Isaac's soul is bound to hers.

Then she stays up all night hugging Isaac, instructing him, kissing him, and preparing him for the trip. She dresses him in the finest and makes sure he has all the provisions he will need, even though he is a grown man. She cries before he leaves, cries while she waves good-bye to him, and cries while he is gone. Perhaps she intuitively knows that something is not right. Abraham has not told her the real reason he's taking Isaac on this journey. When they don't come home as soon as she thinks they should have, she goes off looking for him. The description of her pain and worry is heart-breaking. Satan disguises himself and tells her Isaac has been sacrificed, then he disguises himself again and tells her he's alive. She is so overcome with joy at the last news, that she dies (probably from a stroke or heart attack).

In the end, it is this Mother that suffers the most from the worry and stress and love for her child, and it is the Mother that loses her life.

snowbird

JO, have I told you lately that I love you?

You've got me all choked up, girlfriend.

That is exactly how I feel about the situation.

Sarah knew that something was in the making!

Satan knew that his was a lost cause, yet he persisted in causing misery and heartache!

Isaac, 37 years old at the time, could have easily resisted his 137 year old father, but was willing to be the sacrifice.

Eliezer and Ishmael, certain that Isaac would die, their eyes blinded by materialism, were already making plans for inheriting Abraham's possessions! Doesn't this remind you of the apostles' argument over who would get which position, while Jesus of Nazareth was making His way to Jerusalem to be sacrificed?

I tell you, I was blown away when I read this account.

Incidentally, Sarah was 127 years old when she died. Hers is the only account of a woman's age at death that is mentioned in the Bible. I pointed that out at a meeting once, and was stared at disapprovingly by a pompous elder.

Thank you for responding.

Love.

Syl

journey-on

JO, have I told you lately that I love you?
As I do you, sister.
I thought this was a terrific topic. I'm still interested in verses 70-75 in the second text regarding the ram, especially what is meant by the advancing of the ram toward Abraham and Satan trying to prevent it so that Abraham would have to sacrifice the flesh and blood Isaac. Thanks for sharing this, Sylvia.

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