C.O. visit means...stumping apostasy!

RagingBull

This week, our C.O. is visiting the cong. Great. How was the TMS&Service night?

Here's what I got out of it...

Talk #3 - Romans (forgot the Chapter/verse) to Phlp 2:12, "One must WORK OUT THEIR SALVATION with FEAR AND TREMBLING". The "free gift" God gives is life, but he does not give it to everyone that believes in the gospel. There is a "REASON" behind someone giving a gift to another person. We have to continue serving out in the ministry and doing all that Jehovah and His Son commands in order to gain that Free Gift of Everlasting Life.

yadda yadda....

C.O.'s talk? - Mentioned that the Jehovah's Witnesses are the only religion that's actually "made changes" publicly in fact. (he said publicly) I immediately thought about the "Church of God" (if that's correct) who basically had a documentary about the affects of the change in their belief system and not holding on to Old Testament teachings so much since Christ made it absolete. Basically, he was saying not to worry about questions concerning false prophecies because we don't go by them anymore. (Awesome excuse. Wait did we just apostasize ourselves from the Russell and even Rutherford teachings?)

Also he mentioned the importance of the Field Ministry (of course) and how the Good News of the Kingdom has indeed been preached to every Nation. (so of course everyone is thinking..."and then the end will come! we better get on the ball!") He spoke of an experience out in service with a woman who new her Bible so well but believed in the Trinity. ( I know some people do believe in the "God Head" where Jesus, God, and the Holy Spirit are ONE, yet they are "different personalities" that serve different purposes. Of course many JWs never think of that line of thought and Many people I've met that believe this way don't use the word or like the word "TRINITY". I guess the concept is similar to a Governing Body. One Body made up of different personalities/personages. whatever.)

So after knocking all of that out and downing other religions meeting was over.

Wasanelder Once

Don't like it? Don't go. Fade.

OnTheWayOut

Talk #3 - Don't be fooled, that Free Gift of Everlasting Life is not free at all. You have to attend all these meetings and sell magazines door-to-door and etc. etc. (Oh, how we wish the Bible hadn't said it was free.)

C.O.'s talk? - Mentioned that the Jehovah's Witnesses are the only religion that's actually "made changes" publicly in fact.

They keep saying things so that the members believe it. They must just believe it because they keep saying it. "Ignore the man behind the curtain!" they say. "Ignore our old printed materials. They will just confuse you."

Also he mentioned the importance of the Field Ministry (of course) and how the Good News of the Kingdom has indeed been preached to every Nation. (so of course everyone is thinking..."and then the end will come! we better get on the ball!")

Get to work if you want your "FREE" gift or else God will kill you.

RagingBull

@Wasanelder - How did you fade? (if I may ask) How did it affect your wife and kids? Are you still together as a family or did you divorce?

Luo bou to

Free gift that you have to work for. Is that what we call an oxymoron? Me thinks you would have to be a moron to swallow that line of reasoning.

RagingBull

Maybe its a "consolation prize" for not being of the 144,000.

jgnat

More about the World Wide Church of God. I notice it's undergone a name change since the last I checked. It is now called Grace Communion International.

http://www.gci.org/aboutus/history

You will see they are much more open about their doctrinal mistakes than the WTS. The congregation took a huge hit in numbers as they went through this painful change. It was honest, but painful and costly.

The Catholic church apologizes, too, in it's own way. It's apologized for the schizms of the past, forceful evangelism through the crusades and the inquisition, their treatment of the Jews and most recently for the molestation of children in Ireland.

Memory and Reconciliation

Just try and find such frank confessions on the official Watch Tower website.

RagingBull

Oh I forgot to mention... in the Service Meeting (from the 2011 Year Book) everyone was so proud and impressed with a 10yr olds baptism. I thought..."I would never let my child get baptized at 10yrs of age!!!" that's insanity. A kid 10yrs old that hasn't even had a biology class or hit puberty is going to "teach" an individual the Bible?

I'm sorry, I forgot. Not the Bible, but whatever WT Bible "AID" is in use at the time. Because the Bible needs an AID so that people can understand it since GOD couldn't explain it thru those he inspired well enough.

I'm almost dying to find out how many times she'll be counseled in the "small room" of the KH in her lifetime. wow!

Pams girl

The JW are the only religion Ive had anything to do with that actively bash other religions to boost their own feelings of worth.

Also the "Good News of the Kingdom" certaily has NOT been preached to the entire inhabited earth, thats bull. Deluded fools.

A 10 year old being baptised, makes me sick but isnt surprising. Baptism candidates are getting younger, so are MS and Elders.....wonder how the trend will translate in a few years?

Good luck (still feel weird saying that!) with your fade or whatever. As a hubby and father, your priority is them, not a book publishing company. If your marriage doesnt hold up, which i hope it does (read your other thread), you'll always be a dad, be the best you can.

Paula

Wasanelder Once

I guess I was a bit flippant. I am not married and have no children. I was single for the kingdom and a pioneer till armageddon type, very motivated. I developed diabetes and it was very convenient to back off. Others have done the same simply by slowing down to a crawl. Lower hours till none are reported. Canceling talk assignments over time makes you unreliable and they won't assign them as redily. If you're an elder you can always say you need to take a break and then slow to a crawl till they say its better not to serve. I don't know how to handle a wife and kids but you'll find many here have done so. Start a thread How do I fade when I have a family? I'm sure you'll get swamped with answers. Good luck.

C.O. visit means...stumping apostasy!

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