A Realistic Assessment Of America - Or Not?

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  • Englishman
    Englishman

    This is straight from today's Sunday Times. My guess is that what is written here pretty well typifies how most Europeans regard America.

    Is it fair? Could well be.......!

    Andrew Sullivan: A lesson for America-haters


    In the end, the International Olympic Committee relented. It allowed the actual flag found in the wreckage of the World Trade Center to be carried in the opening ceremony of the Salt Lake City games. It was even prepared to let it be flown over the stadium. It took a certain amount of persuasion, but in the end they let the Americans have it.
    “These games are held in the United States and we have deep respect and sympathy for everything that has happened since September 11,” said François Carrard, the IOC’s director-general. “But let’s not forget the games is a universal event.”

    Perhaps it’s appropriate that the Olympic Games are being held in the United States at this time. They sum up the often exquisitely awkward relationship between America and the rest of the world.

    The Olympics are designed to be truly international occasions, although they inevitably play to the host country’s nationalism and, in the competitions themselves, to other countries’ nationalism as well. But each time they are held in America, this tension between internationalist aspirations and nationalist reality seems to increase exponentially.

    Remember Atlanta — where American audiences were regarded as oblivious to athletes from other nations? Above all, remember Los Angeles? That year — 1984 — was a pivotal one in the cold war. Europe was tense with cruise missiles facing their Soviet equivalents.

    Four years earlier the United States had boycotted the Moscow games and this time the Soviets returned the favour. Ronald Reagan was gearing up for his landslide re-election. Europeans were ambivalent about a cowboy president when they weren’t terrified.

    The opening ceremony was an almost lugubriously kitschy spectacle — with dozens of Elvis impersonators, corporate logos everywhere, Lionel Richie singing and Up With People grinning and leaping their way into the collective consciousness. I remember watching it and wincing. But I also remember being transfixed by its exuberance and power.

    I recalled the creaking fascist monotones of the Moscow games compared with the multicoloured ebullience of LA. I turned to my friend who was watching it with me and said: “You know what? They may be vulgar, but they’re going to win this war.”

    And win it they did. But the difficulty America now has in dealing with the world is far greater than it was in 1984. Back then it was a choice between the Americans and the Soviets. Now there’s a choice between the Americans . . . and everyone else. In 2002, there isn’t even a faint rival to the United States in global domination.

    The US defence budget already dwarfs most of its competitors’ combined. With the projected vast increases in military spending, the gap will widen even further. Nato itself seems increasingly redundant, since the high-tech American military has only the British even broadly in their league, and genuine military alliances are becoming harder and harder to forge.

    America’s economy, despite the current slowdown, has increased its lead over Europe only in the past decade and left Japan in the dust. With the initial phase of the war on terrorism coming to a brief resolution, it is also clear that America’s global reach and technological superiority is making the word “hegemony” seem like an understatement.

    So the resentment of American power — even among close allies such as Britain — is not only likely, it’s inevitable. And because there isn’t even a close rival emerging to challenge this dominance, the resentment will only increase. We’ve seen what this amounts to in the form of the failed satrapies of the Islamic Middle East: a mixture of begging bowls for American aid and murderous terrorism in resentment of it.

    In China it is greeted with deep suspicion and a ferocious new nationalism — but there is still no sign of an actual, substantive Chinese military able to compete for global dominance with America. In Europe there is the cult of the EU among the elites, and the euro for the masses. But every European country understands that world power is something in the history books, not feasible, if even desirable, today.

    The more interesting question is: what should the United States do about resentment of its hegemony? Sure, it can and should consult its allies more widely. But when those allies (with the exception of Britain) have very little substantive to contribute in, say, waging the war in Afghanistan, those consultations can end up being exercises in condescension or phoniness.

    Sure, America can and should take a more active role in many international institutions. But it cannot be expected to provide the bulk of the funding for bodies (like the UN) whose main task seems at times to be attacking the United States and its allies.

    Nor should a great power be expected consistently to subordinate its own interests to those of other states, especially when its actions actually protect those other states from harm.

    If Europeans resent America’s power, they need to ask themselves: would they like to confront global terrorism without it? Imagine Al-Qaeda intact today, entering into close contact with Iraq or Iran to get nuclear, biological or chemical weapons to detonate in the middle of London.

    Feel better about American hegemony now? Then of course when it appears that the United States might actually take its allies’ advice and retreat into ambivalence, there is a chorus of disapproval and widespread fears of a new “isolationism”.

    America, when you look at it, is damned if she does, and damned if she doesn’t. Which is why Americans, at some point, just get on with it and ignore the chorus of whining from around the world.

    That’s the underlying reality and we might as well acknowledge it. That’s why the IOC gave in to American demands that its WTC flag be a part of the opening ceremony in Salt Lake City. That’s why, in the end, the United States will eventually ignore allies who refuse to co-operate in the war against terrorism and terrorist states.

    Real power always finds a way. And the only corrective to American dominance is not an attempt to weaken America or poison the world by fomenting hatred of her. At the moment, when America is the firmest bulwark against a terrorist network that aims to destroy every free country, that would be a particularly foolish venture.

    No, the only corrective to American hegemony is for other countries to emulate the free markets, free thought and free institutions that undergird the United States and make American economic and military power possible. But that’s so much harder than the panacea of envy, isn’t it?



    Englishman.

    Truth exists;only falsehood has to be invented. -Georges Braque

  • proplog2
    proplog2

    You couldn't find a better exposition of how the United States is Babylon the Great.

    Rev 18:3 "For because of the wine of the anger of her fornication all the nations have fallen victim, and the kings of the earth committed fornication with her, and the traveling merchants of the earth became rich due to her shameless luxury."

    A contemporary way of saying "shameless luxury" is "conspicuous consumption". The USA has facilitated immense evil by making deals with ruling elites to keep the raw materials flowing and the sweat shops working.

    Revelation 17:18 "the woman whom you saw means the great city that has a kingdom over the kings of the earth" can you say -----
    H-E-G-E-M-O-N-Y?

    Revelation 18:7 "In her heart she keeps saying "I sit a queen, and I am no widow, and I shall never see mourning. That is why in one day her plagues will come, death and mourning and famine and she will be completely burned with fire."

    Rev 17: And every ship captain and every man that voyages anywhere and sailors and all those who make a living by the sea, stood at a distance and cried out as the looked at the smoke from the burning of her and said, "What city is like the great city? Too bad, too bad the great city, in which all those having boats at sea became rich by reason of her costliness because in one hour she has been devastated."

    This is not a description of some religious entity. It is clearly an extremely rich political entity.

    In the very near future will will understand this.

  • tyydyy
    tyydyy

    Wow! While it's hard to personify a whole nation I do believe that was pretty close. This nation has always taken on the responsibility of protecting the whole world and sometime the world is grateful. Sometimes it isn't.

    TimB

    PW: Proplog, I'm glad to be living in Babylon the Great. Aren't you? Or do you hate the things this country does for you?

  • plmkrzy
    plmkrzy

    I hear the ships fog horns late at night, I'm moving.

  • expatbrit
    expatbrit
    This nation has always taken on the responsibility of protecting the whole world

    That's funny. My history books say that the United States has only been around for 218 years.

    I agree with just about all of this article. I wish America-haters would just stop whining. If you don't like the way America does things, work at becoming powerful enough to show them a better way.

    Expatbrit

  • tyydyy
    tyydyy

    EXPat,

    What's your problem? Do I have to spell everything out for you? Do you know how to carry on a conversation? I guess not. Ok look. Let me spell it out for you. As long as the US has had the power they have acted as the police of the world and the world was glad to have us. Now, go ahead pick that apart. Let your jealousy shine.

    TimB

  • patio34
    patio34

    Thanks for the article, E-man. I was leery that it was another anti-American sentiment.

    It is notable that there are seldom anti-England or anti-any other nation on here (well, with the exception of the Taliban group).

    Pat

    "It's easier to put on slippers than to carpet the world." (from "Stuart Saves His Family")

  • expatbrit
    expatbrit

    LOLOLOLOL....uh oh, I just got bitchslapped!

    Tim, if you'll reread the last half of my post you'll see that I'm one of the more pro-American Euro's on the db. I've said it before, but here it is again: I agree with Margaret Thatcher, who said that America is the greatest force for freedom the world has yet known. Besides, any nation that invents Krispy Kreme donuts has to have a lot of positives going for it.

    I often find myself wishing as a British person that we would all stop whining about America and emulate some more of their positive attitudes. The British nation used to have mojo, perhaps a lot of it has emgirated to America?

    I was making a facetious joke about the 218 years btw. I knew what you meant. Sorry my joke went astray. (You've no idea how often I used to hear the words "that wasn't an appropriate thing for a Christian to say, Brother Expatbrit"!)

    Expatbrit

  • tyydyy
    tyydyy

    That's cool ExPat,
    I just woke up from a very late night and there was still a little piss in my system. Sorry I didn't see your humor. Great comeback!

    I wonder what the rest of the world thinks that the Americans feel. Do they think we feel superior? Do they think we feel compassionate? Do they think we want to conquer the whole world?

    TimB

  • outnfree
    outnfree

    HeHeHe!!! ExPat got bitch-slapped!!! (by a GUY! )

    E-man,

    Interesting article!
    I think this about sums it up: America is the nation the world loves to hate.

    Which is why Americans, at some point, just get on with it and ignore the chorus of whining from around the world.
    outnfree

    P.S. Not only Americans died at the World Trade Center, lest we forget!

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