Grandfather died (page 2)

outnfree

Cygnus,

My condolences on the loss of your grandfather.
I do not know the answer re: the outline. Sorry.

outnfree

It's what you learn after you know it all that counts -- John Wooden

Im sorry about your grandfather.
When mine passed away we had the funeral at the funeral home with a brother speaking. I felt like I was sitting through a Sunday talk. My Aunt encouraged it, she said it would be a great chance to witness to all the worldly people who would be attending. How awful to use a persons death as a way to recruit new members. They even left a watchtower sticking out of his pocket as he was being shown. God, now that I talk about it, it sounds so bizarre. They said a few words about him but I wish the speaker would have said more about my grandfather as a person, since he was such a great guy. They did however, go on and on about how he died faithfull since he refused a blood transfusion. When my grandmother died (of natural causes) the funeral was the same. There wasnt much said about her as a person.
Is there a way you can see the finished talk before they speak? Maybe you could add in a few words. I suppose they would never let "just anyone" speak at the end either, huh? What about a family member? Would anyone be comfortable enough? I would hope they would at least allow that much. Its such a hard thing to go through as it is, its too bad issues like these have to come up.
Take Care.

AlanF

Sorry to hear about your grandpa, Cyg!

I'm pretty sure that there is no rule about giving a funeral talk from a Society outline. I looked at a bunch of references on the WT CDROM and they all indicated that a "Bible talk" would be given, but the context indicated that the speaker could say what he wanted.

AlanF

teenyuck

Cyg,

My condolences on the loss of your grandfather...{{{{hugs}}}}

The Other Tina

OUTLAW

Hey Cygnus,I`m sorry about you grandad...OUTLAW

rekless

My heart goes out to you.

They have to use the outline, but if you have a cool elder then he could adlib somethings that the family request.

Rekless

Kep

Cygnus,
Sorry to hear about your grandfather, my condolences.
I've been 2 a few JW services and it's true man, they use it as a way to preach their message.
It sounds like you have an elder who is a friend of the family, so he may be more inclined to follow your wishes.
It's good to know that your family are able to treat you properly despite your choices in life.
It's taken my family 5 years to get to this stage.
We lost our father last month who was divorced from our mother who is the JW.
We had a traditional funeral for Dad, this is not in agreement with the JW way, and my family respected this and attended it despite what the church says.
I have 1 sister DA'd and a brother and sister who are inactive but staunch for the "truth" and I'm DF'd.
It was a very sad time, but it has brought us kids closer together.
I hope all goes well for you and your family.
Kepa

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