The Trinity (page 9)

The Quiet One

Bob- Where do they call Jesus a false prophet? http://www.bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Library.sr/CT/HWA/k/1125/Was-Jesus-Dead.htm "We read: " Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures" ( I Corinthians 15:3 ). "Christ" means "Anointed," or "Messiah," and while the name "Jesus" may be used to denote the human man, the title "Christ" certainly refers to the Divine One - the one who was GOD with us. This Scripture says He died, and was buried - and it was He - the CHRIST - the Divine One - who ROSE FROM THE DEAD. He did not rise from life or a living state, but from the DEATH! "For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that He might be Lord both of the dead and living" ( Romans 4:9 ). When He rose, He was revived. When a boxer is knocked unconscious, the attendants work over him torevive him. The expression "He was revived" indicates Christ had been unconscious - not that He rose from a state of conscious mental activity. "For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly . . . while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us" ( Romans 5:6 ,8). God in the Flesh The test of a spirit - that is , angel or demon - is this: "Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God" ( I John 4:2 ). But does this mean that Jesus was God inside of a body of flesh? Could this mean that it was merely the body Christ was dwelling in that died, while Christ Himself, being God, did not die, but left the body and remained alive, conscious, active, during the three days and three nights in the tomb? Notice again: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God" ( John 1:1 ). The Greek word is " Logos ." It means"Word," or "Spokesman." This is referring to the One who co-existed with the Father from eternity - who always existed - who is one with the Father, yet, as He Himself said, His Father is greater then He." Even the statement of beliefs on the site states that Jesus is God the Son, and the Messiah. Perhaps you should read sources more carefully before dismissing them. Even IF they HAD called Jesus a false prophet, the reasoning used on the personnification page seemed logical to me. Even non-trinitarians can be worth listening to, information and/or reasoning doesn't need to be judged based on whether the person agrees with you or not. Maybe you could try to at least look at another viewpoint with an open mind?

bob1999

"Where do they call Jesus a false prophet?"

You have mis-understood me.

The Worldwide Church of God, now known as Grace Communion International,

has turned from the teachings of Herbert W. Armstrong and as far as I know consider him (H.W.A.) a false prophet.

The article that you are quoting from was written by Herbert W. Armstrong.

That artical is found on the same web site that you recommended "Thanks for the replies. I think that this page is relevant to the discussion.. http://www.bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Topical.show/RTD/CGG/ID/3562/Personification.htm"

as being relevant. The article you recommended, Personification From Forerunner Commentary, is from the website BibleTools.org

A web site run by Church of the Great God, Inc.

The article by Herbert W. Armstrong is on the Church of the Great God website.

All I was trying to do is show that nothing relevant (IMO) can come from a web site that clings to the treachings of a false prophet (H.W.A.)

Peace

bob1999

"bob1999....I have copied an excerpt from the site you recommend above...."

You have mis-understood me.

I did not recommend that site. A different article from that site was quoted by 'The Quiet One'.

I pointed out that that site is tied in with people that still believe in the false treachings of Herbert W. Armstrong and should NOT be taken seriously.

The portion that you have quoted are the writings of Herbert W. Armstrong, a crazy person who is now dead and has been denounced by his own church, the church that he started.

Peace

leavingwt

The portion that you have quoted are the writings of Herbert W. Armstrong, a crazy person who is now dead and has been denounced by his own church, the church that he started.

bob1999 -- As an interesting side note, the splinter groups who are faithful to the original Armstrong theology are alive and well. One of my coworkers is a member.