by donny 12 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
This morning as I was out doing my morning run, I noticed 3 vans drive by and park on a small connecting street near my home. Out of the three vans came 14 JW's out for their morning field service. All but two of the 14 were women and one of the guys was probably around 14 or 15. The other guy looked to be in his 40's.
I know the Society has always had a shortage when it came to "qualified" males in the congregations, but has this problem became worse since I left in 1992?
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To follow up on yesterdays encounter with the JW's, two women approached me and began talking about the recent earthquakes and world upheaval (I guess some things never change). I quickly interupted to steer the conversation a different direction. Although it was two different folks who came here the last time, their replies were was almost the same.
Me: I am somewhat familiar with your teachings. I have an aunt back in Texas who is a Witness and she has told me much about the religion but I have an issue with 1919 as being the day God chose your organization as the one true religion?
JW 1: 1919? God chose us? Where did you hear that?
Me: From my aunt.
JW 2: Well she must be new in the truth and does not know the whole depth of it yet.
Me: Ok, so when did God choose your organization and the one and only?
JW 1: There was no one year when it suddenly came, it was a gradual process.
Me: So how long was this "process"
JW 2: Why don't you come to our Kingdom Hall and talk to one of our elders. They would be able to give you a more detailed answer.
JW 1: Yes, they have more in depth knowledge that you will find amazing.
Me: So you are saying that you guys don't teach that God chose your group in 1919 as the "faithful and discreet slave?"
JW 1: Well yes God selected the Society, that is what we call our leadership, as the faithful and discreet slave but it was done over time.
Me: So when would you say this "done over time" selection was complete?
JW 1: (Shrugs) I'm not sure of an exact year (looks over at her partner who also shrugs) but I am sure our elders could give you a better answer. May I ask why this is important to you?
Me: Well you guys say that you are part of the only organization that God works through and that is a very big claim. Big claims require big evidence and there has to be a point in time when it was determined that you guys are "it." I can't just be told "we are the true religion" without digging deeper to find out how and when this occured. You have to admit, that is a huge claim considering the thousands and thousands of Christians sects today.
JW 1: Christian sex?
Me: Not sex, sects. S.E.C.T.S. It means different groups or offshoots.
JW 2: Well I guess different poeple need different things to convince them. An exact date as to when God chose was never important to me, it was more about how they believe in the Bible and try their best to teach the truth.
JW 1: Yes, the Bible and staying true to it is the most impotant thing.
Me: But didnt you guys just recently change the generation of 1914 teaching from being associated to those who were born that year would still be here at the end to this overlapping generation thing?
JW 1 (Both begin walking away) Please sir, come to the Kingdom Hall and our elder will be able to answer your questions.
Me: Well send them here. I'm kind of busy and I dont know where your Kingdom Hall is.
JW 1: It's on Constitution, you can Google it.
Me: What if I dont have a PC?
JW 1: It's in the Yellow Pages
Me: I don't have a Yellow Pages
JW 2: Ok, ok. We will send an elder here. Will you be here next Saturday?
Me: Yes
JW 2: Then we'll inform them so one can come. Have a nice day sir.
Me: You too. Tell them I want that date or date range of your organizations selection by God.
JW 2: Yes sir we will. Goodbye
I can hardly wait.
JW 1 (Both begin walking away) Please sir, come to the Kingdom Hall and our elder will be able to answer your questions.
They always leave when the Questions get tough..LOL!!..
....................... ;-)...OUTLAW
Shame on you Donny, poor things don't' know sect from sex.
I once told a pioneer about the change in the ransom doctrine and she said " that can't be true, I won't teach that" . Lot of jws don't know what the Org. teaches.
This is a fun story and a good question. The Athiest gap between men and women shows that there will always be more Dub women.
I have a feeling that I will not see anyone here next Saturday.
did he show?
Bloody amazing that they are so ill equipped
considering the ministry school and service meeting every week. And that their whole purpose is to preach...
Oh wait! You deviated from the SCRIPT!
bad boy.
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you hit them hard Donny, and they were either the 2 thickest as pig shit Dubs in the whole locality, or they are just plain faced liars I suspect a mixture of the two, as if they didn't have a clue about 1919!
No one will return the visit. You can wait until 2020 and beyond.
