watchtower will dissapear... now live your life.

by cyberjesus 25 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • cyberjesus
    cyberjesus

    I was watching this History channel show regarding the earth that was talking about the ice ages and the fact we live right now between ice ages and the fact that one is due soon (in several thousand years)...

    If you take the fact that our time is literally microscopic in the timeline of the planet....... and you realize we worry regarding the life span of the WT and when it is gonna end..... well we are wasting our time. The WT is gonna dissapear. TRUST me it will, along with all the civilization as we know them.... eventually all we have its gonna be gone.

    So the question is... should we spend our precious minutes debating when the WT is gonna be gone?

    I know we worry about the millions of innocent people still living inside the cult..... but do they really matter? do you know how many millions have already died because of other religions?

    Entire species, civilazations have disspeared. Gone. the dinasaurs are extinct and now we benefit from it..... our cars run on Gasoline.... fossil fuels that once were other living things on this earth and thanks to their death we can...... drive to the store to buy napkins.... and we complain gas is to expensive......

    Its time to live. because eventually other creatures will have to live on our remains..... forget about the WT. It will cease eventually... but we will too.

  • cedars
    cedars

    I know we worry about the millions of innocent people still living inside the cult..... but do they really matter? do you know how many millions have already died because of other religions?

    cyberjesus - can I assume from your comments that you don't have family or loved ones trapped in the cult?

  • cyberjesus
    cyberjesus

    i do. 46 member still in. including parents, grandparents, sister, nieces, nephews, cousins, etc etc etc. I had a network of "friends" that consisted of over 1000 people in at least 5 countries... i wasted 39 years of my life believing that there was life after life.....

    what should i do with the few minutes i have left?...

  • unshackled
    unshackled
    i wasted 39 years of my life believing that there was life after life.....what should i do with the few minutes i have left?...

    Same page here cyber, lots of family still in, lost all the friends I once had. The best thing is to cut out anything holding you back from really living your best life. I'm coming to this realization....but moving on and letting go of the pain and anger is the difficult part.

    Comes down to...either get busy living or get busy dying. I prefer the former.

  • cedars
    cedars

    Minutes? Why do you only have minutes left to live? Could you expand on your current situation so that we can get some help to you if needed?!!

    Wanting your friends and loved ones to be free of the Society does not constitute a "waste" of your life, and I am truly saddened that you feel so desperate as to draw that conclusion. Human compassion and the longing to make life better for others can never be described as a waste. What is life if we can't spend it in the company of our friends and loved ones, or at least looking out for their welfare?

    Many things have changed in the 39 years since your struggle began. The internet is growing in influence, and the Society's grip is weakening in countries where information is more freely available. Furthermore, they are resorting to printing increasingly objectionable and hate-filled messages in their literature, leaving them exposed to press campaigns and potential legal action. They are fast reaching a tipping point of sorts, if they haven't reached it already. Now is not the time to give up, when we are so close to achieving our common objective.

    Please try to be positive despite your undoubtedly well-founded reasons for despondency.

  • cyberjesus
    cyberjesus

    exactly! enjoy what you do. everysecond of it. we will become in the future nothing more than a tv show in the history channel if that even remains.

  • cedars
    cedars

    What if I enjoy helping to accelerate the downfall of the Watch Tower Society through putting a bit of work in?

  • unshackled
    unshackled

    Wanting your friends and loved ones to be free of the Society does not constitute a "waste" of your life, and I am truly saddened that you feel so desperate as to draw that conclusion

    Hey cedars...can't speak for cyber if that's his conclusion, but here's where I'm at. For the past couple years I've been grappling with that very thing. Yes, I want to free family and friends from the Org. Yes I care deeply about them. But everyone's situation is different. With my JW family members, I don't think there's a way to reach them. They are fundamentalistic lifers. So I feel it is beating my head against the wall obsessing about something that can't be done. I find dwelling on it just perpetuates the frustration and pain.

    So I need to let go for the betterment of myself and my own family. Time to let go, rebuild and really live. In the meantime, I can hope for the reasons you listed above something will reach them.....or that the Org will eventually implode.

  • cyberjesus
    cyberjesus

    Minutes? Why do you only have minutes left to live? Could you expand on your current situation so that we can get some help to you if needed?!!

    >> Sure, so I am 41, lets say I live to lets say 80 so I have less than half of my life left. i have therefore 20498400 minutes left and I loose them in increments of 1440 a day. thats my current situation.... however that is no different than everybody here on this board. cuz every body looses the same minutes every day.

    Wanting your friends and loved ones to be free of the Society does not constitute a "waste" of your life,

    >> Agreed, wanting is not a waste of life..... but the fact is wheather you like it or not.... you wont get them free. they will get free only if THEY want it..... so whatever you try is futile. only if they WANT they will.... Unless you have the means to physically intervene their brains.. then you could probably change their minds but they question will be.... is it worth it for them? or are you doing it for you? My parents are over 60 and to be honest they are better off inside the Cult than outside... getting them out will only benefit ME but not them. its sad but thats a fact.

    and I am truly saddened that you feel so desperate as to draw that conclusion.

    >>dont be sad. I am not desperate... I was. I am just realistic. be happy. your outside of the cult... what am I saying? Be whatever you want to be. who am i to tell you what to be?

    Human compassion and the longing to make life better for others can never be described as a waste. What is life if we can't spend it in the company of our friends and loved ones, or at least looking out for their welfare?

    >> I understand you..... totatally. you wish you could enjoy your familys time.... if thats what makes you happy, well keep going. thats what makes you happy. I used to think the same way not long ago. but reality is that my friends and loved one will remain inside the cult and they willl not leave.... only those who are smart enough to leave, will.

    Many things have changed in the 39 years since your struggle began.

    >> My struggle began 2 years ago, before that I was just blindfolded as the other 7 million.

    The internet is growing in influence, and the Society's grip is weakening in countries where information is more freely available. Furthermore, they are resorting to printing increasingly objectionable and hate-filled messages in their literature, leaving them exposed to press campaigns and potential legal action. They are fast reaching a tipping point of sorts, if they haven't reached it already. Now is not the time to give up, when we are so close to achieving our common objective.

    >> I applaud you... thats what give you happines, then keep going at it. But I personally woulnt focus my life into it. I rather go out and smell the flowers, eat good food, make new friends, make new family. eat, pray(not), love. :-)

    Please try to be positive despite your undoubtedly well-founded reasons for despondency.

    >>i am positive, and I am realistic... you want to hear something both positive and realistic? We have very few minutes lefts on this planet.... and I mean WE as a race. we just dont realize how small we are.

  • ziddina
    ziddina

    Hmmm.....

    I can see where "CyberJesus" is coming from....

    Taking the "deep-time" or "geological time" viewpoint.

    I agree with him, up to a point. However, I do recall the saying, "For evil to thrive, requires that good men[women] do nothing..."

    Don't remember WHO said that, but the quote makes an excellent point.

    We should not be devoured by our angst, pain, or any desire for revenge, but we ALSO should not stand idly by while an obvious evil thrives.

    HOWEVER, I personally think that I should take EVERY OPPORTUNITY that is presented to me, to un-do the Watchtower Society and its destructive teachings - as long as such actions are not illegal, dishonest, or obsessive.

    Zid the She-Devil

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