It's the closest thing to the Truth...

garyneal

This is what my JW wife has been saying as of late when it seems like she has no way to defend the doctrines of 1914, blood, as well as their false predictions, etc.. I've seen on this board where others have encountered this come back as well. It seems that the witnesses are getting a little slack and it makes me wonder how they can justify their position of their religion being the only true religion.

First off, being the "closest thing to the truth" implies that the truth itself is known. Therefore, if the truth is known, why settle for being in a religion that is 'the closest thing to it?' Why not either find or start a religion that teaches the truth? Sounds like they're just settling for second best when they say that, but they rail against people of other faiths who decide to put up with errors in their own faith. This is, of course, assuming that these errors can be discovered and purged, which the witnesses claim they do. However, as you all know, some of their teachings have been proven demostrably false time and time again. If the Watchtower Society and its loyal Jehovah's Witnesses stubbornly cling to teachings that have been proven demonstrably false, why do they criticize people of other faiths who stubbornly cling to their false ideas?

However, lets assume for the sake of argument that they are correct in that their teachings are pretty close to the truth. Is it possible that another religion also has teachings that are equally as close to the truth? Assume, for the sake of argument, that there are 200 distinct teachings and of those 200 only 100 of them are correct. If a religion teaches all 100 of those correct teachings, it is teaching the truth. Since the Watchtower's teachings are 'the closest thing to the truth' according to some witnesses, perhaps they are teaching 100 teachings with 99 out of 100 correct and 1 incorrect. If another religion is also teaching 100 teachings with 99 out of 100 being correct but teach a different incorrect teaching than the one incorrect teaching presented by the Watchtower, then mathematically speaking both the Watchtower and this other religion are both equally close to the truth.

In my experience, I've seen pastors whose teaching very similarly to the Watchtower and I have seen where the Watchtower has changed some its teachings, replacing them with teachings that sound a lot like the teachings that come from the Catholic or Christendom's churches. Given the fact that the Catholic and Christendom's churches and the Watchtower changes their teachings every now and then, how can any of them claim to have the truth?

WTWizard

Closest thing to the truth? Suppose all those videos I have been seeing on getting your money out of toilet paper denominated assets and into real assets (silver and gold) is as close to the truth. The witlesses don't have any way of knowing how far they are off from the truth is "It's the closest thing to the truth" is all they can come up with.

And, to me, I believe that some of those "buy silver" videos are a lot closer to the truth than the witlesses ever will be. While they might not get the timing right, debt based "money" is eventually going to collapse in value. Migrating your funds out of debt based currency (toilet paper) into hard assets might be much closer to the truth than what the witlesses teach--for sure, the load in doing so is much lighter and the sacrifice much less in migrating your assets than in wasting all your time in field circus.

james_woods

It would have been far "closer to the truth" if they had never said all the false prophecies.

This is like saying their teachings are wrong, but maybe not quite as wrong as anything else - which is ludicrous.

wobble

I am the closest you can get to being a virgin. Makes as much sense as their "closest to the truth" .

The problem is they swallow the WT line about "as the light gets brighter, we refine our religion", if it needs refining it sure ain't pure.

Most main stream, and most smaller churches, don't make a big thing about having the whole story and having everything right and everybody else is totally wrong, they just feel that where they differ, they are right on those points. The LDS (Mormons) call their cult /religion the "Truth" too.

Just 'coz they keep calling it that, it don't make it so.

Ask your wife if they ,as well as having the truth (well, mostly) do they have the Holy spirit ? Then point out Jesus' words at John 16 v12 &13

How could " that one" only give them partial truth ? "he will guide you in to ALL the truth " so 1925 ? 1975 ? not H.S then, so when did He start giving them the truth ?

"He will declare to you the things coming " so when is the Big A then ?

garyneal

Yeah, I can certainly cite biblical references that relates to them. To James Woods point, sounds like the parable of the Pharisee and the Tax Collector. Wobble, you did a good job pointing out references to their false prophecies and when I did that with 1975 to Brother Hero, he just simply dragged out the party line saying that the original disciples weren't false prophets for asking Jesus when the end would come are they?

wannabefree

tell her ... horseshoes and hand grenades my dear, horseshoes and hand grenades

Was being "the closest thing to the truth" good enough for the nation of Israel?

If Christianity isn't under law, and therefore doesn't have to meet the same requirements as the nation of Israel, what percentage of right is good enough to be acceptable to God?

So, 10 planes take off for Hawaii, all 10 crash in the ocean before getting there, but we are on the one that gets the closest ... something to rejoice over?

The disciples did not go on, in the name of Jesus, to make firm predictions that proved untrue, which is what the WT has done.

Precisely, wobble. Frankly, I don't how anyone say that with a straight face.

garyneal

So, 10 planes take off for Hawaii, all 10 crash in the ocean before getting there, but we are on the one that gets the closest ... something to rejoice over?

So true, so true. Of course we all know that people do not go to church for doctrine anyhow. If Jehovah gives them a pass because Jehovah knows the heart, why is he not giving outsiders a pass?

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