Is There A Nice Way To Say, 'It's Dying?'?

by metatron 43 Replies latest jw friends

  • Billy the Ex-Bethelite
    Billy the Ex-Bethelite

    Instead of saying that the organization is dying, perhaps we could say, "It's going to live with Jesus!"

    Personally, I'm planning to state something like, "I never expected that they would have to discontinue Gilead. Did they word it like the end of the Pioneers Assist Others program where they said it was very successful so they were terminating it? Or like ending the CBS, ending it because of the price of gasoline?"

    Or, "I sure never expected that they'd put credit card readers in the assembly hall. I know from working in retail that the average is like 25% more that people are likely to spend when they pay with plastic instead of cash or check. I know I'd like to find a way to get at 25% raise, but I guess we're not supposed to be materialistic and worry about money."

  • Farkel
    Farkel

    met,

    Jehovah has left the building. Oh, wait! Jehovah never WAS in the building! So now, the WTS is selling the building and they hope Jehovah will rejoin them in another building!

    What liars and charletans they are.

    Farkel

  • breakfast of champions
    breakfast of champions

    I believe "moribund" is the word you need to use. At least they'll have to look it up in a dictionary.

  • ABibleStudent
    ABibleStudent

    Hmmmm . . . I wonder what a JW would say if asked, "Is your book bag heavy? You look so tired carrying it?"

    Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

    Robert

  • wha happened?
    wha happened?

    everytime I speak with an active JW, (or my wife who is offically inactive but attends the public talks occassionaly), all I hear is the GROWTH GROWTH GROWTH going on. They are truly convinced that people are just streaming in. Those stupid videos they show sometimes don't help. I've pointed to the KM's showing little to no growth in the western countries and they won't get the point. Even from their own literature they just refuse to see it. So I say bringing the topic up just creates a wall. Good luck!

  • Sayswho
    Sayswho

    Thanks CompoundC...

    My 77-year-old Mon has been a JW since the day I was born and sees some problems in the org but still believes they are Gods chosen. There are some cracks developing but I am not sure what advantage knowing or realizing there are major problems with the teachings at her age will be.

    For myself I would want to know what’s real-- what’s true and adjust my life according (at any age). Not sure how this will develop with my Mom…her whole life has been based on JW’s (false) teachings.

    Sw

  • agonus
    agonus

    The Organization is losing its relevance in a technologically and culturally progressive society.

  • White Dove
    White Dove

    Willy,

    I borrowed your statement. If you'd rather I erase it where I put it, I will.

  • Band on the Run
    Band on the Run

    I had a lot of positive content from my aunt and uncle JWs and my grandmother. Even when I was completely fed up, I pretended I had respect. I did have respect for the individuals but zilch respect for Brooklyn. They pretended that I was still interested. We had family events but I would be too afraid of rejection. They eventually looked the other way. If I had not shown them respect, it would have been curtains. By respecting them and not respecting myself, I feel their notion of me was served. I was not served by the relationship. The most fundamental part of who I am is NOT a JW.

    The strange thing is that I am the eldest and most concerned with their love. Yet my underground Maoist brother showed up after decades and they had a special dinner in his honor. He pretended he had no political views with them.

    If people aren't going to like me, I want them to not like me b/c of who I really am and not who I am pretending to be so that they won't reject me.

    I stayed with them during a severe illness. Breakfast consisted of a book study. Was I coward or just nice to them? I don't know. If I went on a tangent about my beliefs, experiences, and discoveries, they would have walked out.

  • No Room For George
    No Room For George

    I just got wind of a situation in our congregation where a younger brother made the comment to another elder that, "the Truth just isn't for him." This brother was what one might call a semi-born-in, in the sense that his mother began studying when he was a young buck. He has a handful of siblings who with the exception of one other than himself, all hung around the religion, and then moved on in their adult years. He got burned by a couple JW females, and he's ready to explore his options outside of the Borg. It's just a matter of time now, and whether his other sibling who's the only other one out of the family who stuck with it, remains with it, time will tell but the statistics don't make that outcome promising at least from the Borg's perspective.

    The reality is, this religion has absolutely nothing to offer young people. As a result, the religion's heirarchy isn't concerned with making it more appealing, or reforming doctrinally where it's needed most, but rather they're interested in retaining all who've made the unfortunate mistake of getting baptized in the name of the Father, The Faithful & Discreet Slave, and the Holy Watchtower/Bible & Track Society. The Service Meeting part from a couple weeks back on, Divine Education, quite possibly was the most embarrasing thing I've ever sat through in this organization. It was so glaringly obvious within that meeting and during that part, that the leadership in this organization is lacking creativity and for a lack of better words, gonads, at least male gonads anyway. Heck, say what you like about Rutherford, Knorr, F.Franz, Russell, but at the very least they had some kind of initiative, some kind of drive to blaze a trailway of sorts. The current administration just doesn't have anyone or any clique dynamic enough to do what's necessary to make this organization worth sticking with, at least from a young one's perspective. It'd be a joke if not for all the young people forced to become adults way before they're ready all because the Watchtower encourages giving the boot to any young one who doesn't decide to stick with this crummy way of life.

    When one thinks about it, what has the organization done in recent years that can be labeled dynamic? All the Aricept and Namenda in the world won't help you recall anything promising in this organization. Rather, they're selling properties for profit, laying off Bethelites, taking advantage of volunteer labor, laying on heavy guilt trips, anything and everything they can do to buy more time and force as many people as they can to waste their lives supporting those not willing to work in Walkhill. Some days they get me because its difficult shedding my upbringing, but my instincts tell me that the jig is up. Time is their worst enemy right now, but like my worldly homie always says when he wins a game of Madden, "It's a wrap." That it is, for this organization in its current form, and in times past, it's a wrap. It will never completely cease to exist, but it absolutely cannot continue to exist in it's current form as a monsterous machine eating and chewing up lives, spitting out broken and torn out families, tooth picking corpses of teenage and young adult lives from its Theocratic Fangs. Nope, the jig is up.

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