UnThanksgiving Day

by mrsjones5 18 Replies latest jw friends

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  OUTLAW

  Meh..You Rock Josie..

  You put up with so much and stick by your family..

  Your mom needs a smack upside the head with a 20lb Canadian Salmon..

  The one with the maple leaf imprinted on it`s forehead..

  Send me your address..LOL!!..

  Paper Bag?..LOL!!..

  I went across the border from BC to do some shopping in Washington State..

  I asked for a paper bag..

  They had no idea what I was talking about..

  I kept explaining it ..Nothing..

  Finally I asked for a Paper Sack..They gave me a paper bag..LOL!!..

  WTF?..LOL!!..

  ........................;-)...OUTLAW
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  Dagney

  You are amazing Mrs. Jones, how you handle your mom.

  I wish we were closer...I would love to spend Thanksgiving with you and your family. xx

  Edited to add: Your mom doesn't have a clue what she is missing by being so mean. **sigh**
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  OnTheWayOut

  I will have some UnThanksgiving Day problems myself. Strength to you on your ordeal with family. Enjoy your real family that you've made for yourself instead of the gene pool family that got caught in the web of denial and dissonance.
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  mrsjones5

  "Your mom doesn't have a clue what she is missing by being so mean. **sigh**"

  One of the maddening parts of this is she doesn't think she's being mean. She feels totally justified in her actions and if I do anything to counter then I am the one in the wrong. She called me just this morning, geez we're so deep into the honeymoon phase that it's kinda sickening and amusing at the same time. When the shit hits the fan I'll be blamed yet again (actually my husband will be blamed cuz im supposedly the weak one being controlled by said hubby...yeah right ) but I'm almost at the point of not really giving a damn.

  Thanks OTWO. Hubby and I are fortunate to have some really good friends that we are proud to call family.
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  OUTLAW

  Profile of the Sociopath

  This website summarizes some of the common features of descriptions of the behavior of sociopaths.

  • Glibness and Superficial Charm
  • Manipulative and Conning
    They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.
  • Grandiose Sense of Self
    Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."
  • Pathological Lying
    Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.
  • Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
    A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.
  • Shallow Emotions
    When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.
  • Incapacity for Love
  • Need for Stimulation
    Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.
  • Callousness/Lack of Empathy
    Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.
  • Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
    Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.
  • Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
    Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.
  • Irresponsibility/Unreliability
    Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.
  • Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
    Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.
  • Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
    Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.
  • Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
    Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.

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  Other Related Qualities:

  1. Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them
  2. Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them
  3. Authoritarian
  4. Secretive
  5. Paranoid
  6. Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or admired
  7. Conventional appearance
  8. Goal of enslavement of their victim(s)
  9. Exercises despotic control over every aspect of the victim's life
  10. Has an emotional need to justify their crimes and therefore needs their victim's affirmation (respect, gratitude and love)
  11. Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim
  12. Incapable of real human attachment to another
  13. Unable to feel remorse or guilt
  14. Extreme narcissism and grandiose
  15. May state readily that their goal is to rule the world

  (The above traits are based on the psychopathy checklists of H. Cleckley and R. Hare.)

  .....................;-)...OUTLAW
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  mrsjones5

  You've met my mother, haven't you?
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  ziddina

  Good for you, Josie!!

  I was wondering; honestly speaking, isn't the time you spend with just your family and husband - I mean your "nuclear" family - SOOOOOO much better than time spent around your mother???

  Keeping in mind that I've totally cut off MY parents - the level of vicious destructiveness that they directed at me necessitated it for my own sanity and self-respect...

  You have a good 'un, hear?

  
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  3rdgen

  MsJ, Sorry your Mom/family gives you so much stress. Girl, I know the feeling. I thought this thread was about JW's whos families get together for a big meal (often turkey) on Thanksgiving and refuse to call it what it actually is. My ex's(once an elder) parents would host a big shebang every year on Thanksgiving even tho Dad was the PO. We attended the years we weren't at MY huge JW familys' equally hypocratical Turkey day.
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  wha happened?

  your scenario reminds me of my 1st marraige. My MIL often said I wasn't family. As did others in the family. It's like you're never in unless theres a need for $$$$$. My ex did support me in this as she was often told something "for her ears only" as I wasn't family. She told me everytime