Divided Households... Can anyone relate?

by garyneal 16 Replies latest jw friends

  • garyneal
    garyneal

    Thank you for your responses so far. It has given me some insight.

    I guess I just find myself not really knowing how to proceed. On the one hand, I can understand why the religious education for our children often falls to the wives but I have also seen the damaging effects of this religion. I've also seen how the religion can be beneficial for those who need it (like my mother-in-law) but I think her character has very little to do with her beliefs (in spite of what she might say). This also rings true for Christians, non-JW's.

    Truth is, I know one day, my kids will ask me why did I not become a JW and I know that I will eventually need to be able to present a sound reason. I know my wife, if the kids ask her how come she does not go to church (and they've asked her) she will probably respond with the standard stock WT answers citing divisions, partaking in "pagan" practices, using WT literature that generalize all people outside the bOrg.

  • garyneal
    garyneal
    We knew the dynamics at a young age how our mother manipulated the situation and blamed my father when the witnesses enquired.

    LOL, thanks Blondie. I would not be at all surprised to learn that my wife is doing something similar. A while back my wife had a shepherding call from the elder's in the congregation. Even though the elders said that it was okay for me to sit in the meeting, my wife insisted on sending me outside citing the kids being disruptive to the meeting. Makes me wonder....

  • garyneal
    garyneal

    No others? I take it not very many people are or were in divided households.

    Well, thanks for your responses, everyone.

  • Black Sheep
    Black Sheep
    one day, my kids will ask me why did I not become a JW and I know that I will eventually need to be able to present a sound reason

    If you teach them how to recognise when they are being scammed, they will never have ask you that question.

  • exwhyzee
    exwhyzee

    I can relate to so much of Morbidzbaby's story.

    My Dad let our Mom rasise us as Witnesses. He studied and pretty much thought it was The Truth but couldn't bring himself to go out in service . He was just too quiet and unassuming and unsure of it all to be able to knock on doors with any conviction, so they quit studying with him. My Mom didn't intentionally undermine him in our eyes but just being taught the JW beliefs was enough to do that. All the harsh words about the "world" "unbelievers" "dogs returning to thier vomit" all applied to people like my Dad. We trusted these clean cut, suit wearing, speech giving, bible quoting men at the Kingdom Hall and what they said turmphed whatever my Dad said because they were coached and well rehearsed.

    As kids we knew that Dad had blown his chance to accept the truth and was going to be destroyed at Armegeddon which would be comming any day. This had a profound effect on us all but my younger sister was effected the worst. She would practically be hysterical after meetings when this subject was dealt with. She'd tearfully plead for him to come to meetings because she didn't want him to be "destroyed". She couldn't say that word....she'd say "Stroyed... daddy I don't want you to get STROYED at Armegeddon !"

    My mom was treated like a widow and wasn't included in things. She was very blonde, tall slim and very attractive and had a lovely accent. As I got older I realized some of the sisters viewed her as a threat, being an unaccompianied female around thier husbands. We were looked upon as sad fatherless children and whenever that subject was discussed in the meeting, we would get extra pity for a few meetings, even though we had a perfectly great Dad waiting for us to get home from meeting so he could see us before he had to go to bed. Dad didn't invite anyone over to our house for fear Mom would start Witnessing to them. We had no relatives in this country so we were pretty much locked into the whole JW thing.

    As I've mentioned before, Dad died from loss of blood after signing the No Blood paperwork before a surgery. (he was assured he wouldn't need blood so he signed the papers just in case the JW's are right) He died violently in my younger Sisters arms and she has been a wreck ever since.

    All I know is that kids are pretty black and white about things. For instance, if you tell them that smoking is harmful, what they hear is that anyone who smokes is BAD. If a child is taught that anyone who doesn't believe what he beleives, is wrong, is of the devil and will eventually be destroyed by God, he has no filters to sand the harsh edges off this kind of information. If one of his parents fits this profile, it undermines his trust and feeling of security. Growing up, on it's own is difficult enough without adding these unnecessary burdens to children.

  • Snoozy
    Snoozy

    exwhyzee...very well said!

    My kids grew up thinking that my non JW side of the family was bad and any friends I had from school...I didn't know it for years. I took my child to a counselor after leaving the JW's and the counselor interviewed her .That's what my daughter told her...Hubby's side was good.They were all JW's and mine weren't. My family never said one mean word about my JW hubby or his family but they constantly enjoyed making jokes about my side of the family and how they would die at armageddon in front of the grandkids..

    Makes me mad just remembering..

    Snoozy

  • Snoozy
    Snoozy

    Morbidzbaby wrote:

    "Her mother was JW, her dad was Catholic. He didn't allow JW things spoken in the house, nor was my grandmother allowed to bring the kids to meetings. She only told them a few things, but the rest of their religious training was in Catholicism. Out of 8 kids, 3 are active JW's, 1 is semi-active but seems to be waking up, 1 is inactive, 1 is DF'ed and has been for as long as I can remember and NEVER wants to go back, and 2 were never baptized. So 5 out of 8 are pretty much not in the organization. Those are pretty good odds...OH and NONE of the grandkids are JW's anymore...Well, one is, but is completely awake, but trapped. "

    I am surprised any of them ever became witnesses, Mom must have really worked a number on them behind closed doors..

    Snoozy

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