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Please President Obama - save us from the Watchtower (religion)
by Fernando 14 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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Fernando
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ProdigalSon
I love it.
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N.drew
I think your suppose to call the man President. President Obama. I might be wrong. It's too late to google it. I'm about done with the computer today..
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ilikecheese
Personally, I think it goes both ways. There are certain areas where religious beliefs dictate governmental policies and what they will and won't allow people to do (i.e., The Middle East at its worst... red states at its best), but there are also times when society completely stifles religious expression, too. (i.e., Communist nations and some really really liberal areas... or areas where 90% of people believe the same thing and differering opinions aren't allowed)
I think in the ideal world, governments would allow people to worship freely and let them express their religious beliefs RESPECTFULLY in public, but that religion wouldn't dictate any legislation. So far, I don't see that happening in a lot of places. Sometimes religion oversteps its bounds; sometimes society does. It depends on where you are.
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N.drew
The war against terrorism has real targets that can be seen. Also there's real doctrine that teaches real weapons violence.
The Watchtower Society is way, way more violent. But there's no target.
How many heard them say at convention that soon six billion hearts would stop beating? Was it allegorical? The many young ones in the audience do not know about allegory. What they heard is soon President Obama's heart would stop beating.
They also say jehovah will give them the earth. If another nation came against the United States to take it, would government do nothing? No, it wouldn't do nothing, but it is doing nothing against the spiritual threat. Why?
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Fernando
Watchtower zealots in the ruling religious hierarchy may try to obey the law at a PHYSICAL and outward level but will not hesitate to commit SPIRITUAL crimes on their hapless victims: abduction, rape, torture, starvation, assassination, murder and so on...
They do this since they can get away with it because of giant gaps in legislation that exist because we as a society are not clear where the baby (faith, spirituality, the gospel) ends and the bathwater (religion) begins.
It should not be that hard since the relationship between the two is directly opposite (antithetical) on scores of points.
Keep Jesus, toss religion.
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Violia
heh, I found a song for that pic, posted in the music thread. Jesus, protect me from your followers.
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ekruks
Isn't Obama religious though? Compared to Europe (especially the UK), well, the USA seems to generally be crazy about religion! The majority of English people may claim to be Anglican, but they never do much about it, such as pray. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of young European kids couldn't name one Bible book.
I'm not saying that Americans all regularly attend church and so on, but they often make reference to God having blessed them, and thanking him when things go well, but when it goes badly, well, Satan gets the blame.
This is quite saddening - in the 21st century, the country that practically rules the world is not atheist. Christianity, even be it a heavily watered-down form of the religion, dominates the world. -
Bangalore
Why is it saddening,Eruks?
Bangalore
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Fernando
ekruks: Some of President Obama's comments seem to suggest he is leaning away from (divisive) religion toward (unifying) faith and spirituality, but like everyone else still struggling to figure out exactly where the baby stops and the bathwater starts (so as to throw out the latter).