Proof of Jesus' Deity using the NWT - One Simple Scripture

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  • Londo111
    Londo111

    I've yet to make up my mind or even understand this doctrine...and even if I came to believe every aspect of it, I wouldn't be too dogmatic about it. I am done with dogma…as long as a Christian believes Jesus is God's Son that would be what I would hold as more important than the finer points of what his godhood means. Even more weighty: following Christ's teachings in one's daily life. The rest, to me, is a tenth of the mint and the dill and the cumin.

    But in regard to the Gospel of Luke, if we turn two chapters to Luke 10:18: 'Jesus said to him: “Why do you call me good? Nobody is good, except one, God.'

    So whereas, one might use Luke 8:39 to prove that Jesus is God Almighty, some might use Luke 10:18 to prove that Jesus is not God Almighty.

    Of course, people in both camps might end up disregarding everything Jesus taught between those two verses, and for that matter, before and after these verses. The most important thing about Luke 8:26-39, is what can we learn from our Exemplar in this account with the demon-possessed man--how can we do the same toward others in our daily life?

  • TTWSYF
    TTWSYF

    Londo111, I think you meant Mark 10;18

    NWT Mark 10; 18 Jesus said to him: “Why do you call me good? Nobody is good, except one, God."

    Maybe it's the apologist in me, but I gotta ask to your example.

    Was Jesus good?

    dc

  • PSacramento
    PSacramento

    One would be hard press to see Jesus as anything other than God, and considering that He gave his life for Us out of love, good is probably nor good enough in regards to Jesus.

    The issue with the Trinity is that SOME still think that means Jesus = God the Father and it doesn't mean that.

    As soon as a person realizes that the trinity is ancient man's attempt to understand the nature of God and the relationshipe between Father, Son and HS, they will realize that the Trinity is not such a big deal.

    The OT says that ONLY God can Save, only God can redeem and only God can Forgive and yet Jesus did all these things and more.

    So, is Jesus God? or is the OT wrong?

  • Londo111
    Londo111

    Oops--my apologies! Luke 18:19...of course Mark is a parallel account, so it's all good. :)

  • Londo111
    Londo111

    As far as interpretations of Luke 18:19 and Mark 10:18...and whether Jesus was good: Jesus always directed glory to His Father, the Ultimate Source of goodness, out of whom all goodness flows--but goodness flows always through his Son.

  • PSacramento
    PSacramento

    The whole core of the trinity simply is this:

    You can't have one without the other.

  • TTWSYF
    TTWSYF

    I thought we were supposed to be avoiding the whole 'trinity' thing

  • PSacramento
    PSacramento

    There is only ONE saviour in the OT:

    Isaiah 43

    10 z“You are my witnesses,” declares the Lord ,

    “and amy servant whom I have chosen,

    that you may know and believe me

    and understand that I am he.

    bBefore me no god was formed,

    nor shall there be any after me.

    11 cI, I am the Lord ,

    and besides me there is no savior.

    12 I declared and saved and proclaimed,

    when there was no strange god among you;

    and zyou are my witnesses,” declares the Lord , “and I am God.

    Not sure you can discuss the divinty of Jesus without it but...

    The passages that allude to Jesus's divinity are all over the NT and, if we apply the prophecies of Isaiah to him, in the OT as well:

    Isaiah 9:6

    For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; And the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.

  • Terry
    Terry

    Meaning is to communication what the explosion is to dynamite.

    Without it---useless!

    A missing or added word.....a reframing of structure....changes, distorts, warps and/or clarifies.

    No way to know.

  • Londo111
    Londo111

    Technically...some might point to Judges 3:15 and 1 Samuel 23:5. Of course, even though both Ehud and David were saviors, they wouldn't have been so if it hadn't been for the ultimate Source of such saving.

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