Best National Anthem

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  • Scully
    Scully

    As part of the British Commonwealth, Canadians (when I was a schoolgirl) were supposed to know "God Save the Queen" as well as "O, Canada"

    What I found weird was that even though I wasn't allowed to sing either of them, my parents didn't think there was anything wrong with knowing the lyrics or how to play the melody. No wonder the teacher gave me such a hard time in Gr 7, considering all the "mixed messages" she was getting from the local dubs.....

    Here ya go Mulan... you can listen anytime: http://www.pch.gc.ca/ceremonial-symb/english/o-cda.ra

    you can even sing along in English and French if you want...
    http://www.pch.gc.ca/ceremonial-symb/english/mus_e.html

    The Official Lyrics of "O Canada"

    Official Lyrics of O Canada!
    O Canada!
    Our home and native land!
    True patriot love in all thy sons' command.
    With glowing hearts we see thee rise,
    The True North strong and free!

    From far and wide,
    O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

    God keep our land glorious and free!
    O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

    O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

    O Canada! Terre de nos aïeux,
    Ton front est ceint de fleurons glorieux!
    Car ton bras sait porter l'épée,
    Il sait porter la croix!

    Ton histoire est une épopée
    Des plus brillants exploits.

    Et ta valeur, de foi trempée,
    Protégera nos foyers et nos droits.

    Protégera nos foyers et nos droits.

    Love, Scully


    In the desert things find a way to survive. Secrets are like this too. They work their way up through the sands of deception so men can know them. - The X Files
  • Mulan
    Mulan

    Yep, I looked it up. Waltzing Matilda was the National anthem for Australia until 1984.

    God Save the Queen is known as the Royal Anthem. The Australia Fair one is what replaced Waltzing Matilda.

    By the way, Matilda was not a woman. That song has a neat history.

    Marilyn (aka Mulan)
    "No one can take advantage of you, without your permission." Ann Landers

  • Adam
    Adam

    I like Cuba's the best.

    "Row, row, row your boat."

  • expatbrit
    expatbrit

    I like the American national anthem because it is, of course, English. Yet one more trans-atlantic tie.

    Here's a quite good blurb on it:

    The original tune was "To Anacreon in Heaven," an English drinking song written by John Stafford Smith with words by Ralph Tomlinson, Esq. According to tradition it was first "sung at the Crown Anchor Tavern in the Strand, circa 1780." Tomlinson was president of the Anacreontic Society, a gentlemen's club popular with upscale London boozers. Anacreon (563-478 B.C.) was a Greek poet known for his songs of wine and women.

    You're thinking: drinking song? I can't sing "The Star-Spangled Banner" when I'm sober.

    I'm not arguing with you. The thought of a bunch of guys drunk as lords, half of whom were lords, screeching this tune out at the top of their lungs . . . I don't know about you, but in thirty seconds I'd be begging for Roseanne.

    And the lyrics! You'd expect a drinking song to be pretty raucous, and by comparison to the national anthem I suppose "Anacreon" is. But it's no "99 Bottles of Beer on the Wall." Here's the full unexpurgated text, dug out by my able assistant SDSTAFF Songbird, who provided much of the information that follows as well:

    To Anacreon in Heav'n, where he sat in full glee,
    A few Sons of Harmony sent a petition;
    That he their Inspirer and Patron wou'd be;
    When this answer arrived from the Jolly Old Grecian;
    "Voice, Fiddle, and Flute,
    No longer be mute,
    I'll lend you my name and inspire you to boot,
    And besides I'll instruct you like me, to intwine,
    The Myrtle of Venus with Bacchus's Vine."

    The news through Olympus immediately flew;
    When Old Thunder pretended to give himself airs.
    If these Mortals are suffered their scheme to pursue,
    The Devil, a Goddess, will stay above stairs.
    "Hark," already they cry,
    "In transports of joy,
    Away to the Sons of Anacreon we'll fly.
    And besides I'll instruct you like me, to intwine,
    The Myrtle of Venus with Bacchus's Vine.

    The Yellow-Haired God and his nine lusty Maids,
    From Helion's banks will incontinent flee,
    Idalia will boast but of tenantless Shades,
    And the bi-forked hill a mere desert will be.
    My Thunder no fear on't,
    Shall soon do it's errand,
    And damme I'll swing the Ringleaders I warrant,
    I'll trim the young dogs, for thus daring to twine,
    The Myrtle of Venus with Bacchus's Vine."

    Apollo rose up and said, "Pry'thee ne'er quarrel,
    Good sing of the Gods with my Vot'ries below:
    Your Thunder is useless"--then showing his laurel,
    Cry'd "Sic evitable fulmen" you know!
    "Then over each head
    My laurels I'll spread
    So my sons from your Crackers no mischief shall dread,
    While snug in their clubroom, they jovially twine,
    The Myrtle of Venus with Bacchus's Vine.'

    Next Momus got up with his risible Phiz
    And swore with Apollo he'd cheerfully join--
    'The full tide of Harmony still shall be his,
    But the Song, and the Catch, and the Laugh,
    shall be mine.
    Then Jove be not jealous
    Of these honest fellows,"
    Cry'd Jove, "We relent since the truth you now tell us;
    And swear by Old Styx, that they long shall intwine,
    The Myrtle of Venus with Bacchus's Vine."

    Ye Sons of Anacreon then join hand in hand;
    Preserve Unanimity, Friendship, and Love!
    'Tis yours to support what's so happily plann'd;
    You've the sanction of Gods, and the Fiat of Jove.
    While thus we agree,
    Our toast let it be:
    "May our Club flourish Happy, United, and Free!
    And long may the Sons of Anacreon intwine,
    The Myrtle of Venus with Bacchus's Vine."

    Amazingly, the Anacreontic Society still exists in England. According to their website (glyfix.com/soa/anacreon.html), they are "a bawdy, plaid-wearin', exciting and exhilarating Victorian-era musical-comedy troupe. All together, we are the ultimate devotees to the esteemed dignitary of Master Anacreon hisself (sic). You can say he was the figurative father of all us louts what followed after ('Specially since none of us know who are father is . . .!). So, what does that make us?"

    Assuming that's a rhetorical question, let's move on to America where a young Washington attorney named Francis Scott Key sailed to the British fleet during the War of 1812 to obtain the release of a captured American. He was detained on a British ship and witnessed the bombardment of Fort McHenry during the night of Sept. 13-14, 1814. Under Major George Armistead's command, the fort withstood the attack, and the sight of the American flag flying at dawn inspired Key's verses, written on the way ashore the next morning.

    In those times, folks often recycled good older melodies to use with new lyrics (for example, Maryland's state song uses the melody from "O Tannenbaum"), so no one minded that Scott Key used "To Anacreon in Heaven." Of course recycling melodies still happens today. Consider "The Barney Song," which uses the melody for "This Old Man." OK, so maybe you're not watching Barney so much anymore. How about Weird Al Yankovic's treasure chest of songs including "Smells like Nirvana" or "It's all about the Pentiums"? But even Weird Al knows, to recycle melodies today requires the use of finely-honed musical skills and the services of an excellent lawyer.

    Key's lyrics circulated as a handbill, then were published in a Baltimore newspaper on Sept. 20, 1814. The song was designated the U.S. national anthem by executive order of President Woodrow Wilson in 1916. Following a 20-year effort during which more than 40 bills were introduced to Congress, the order was finally confirmed by Congress in 1931.

    So if you get a craving for beer when you sing the anthem, now you know why!

    Expatbrit

  • barry
    barry

    Mulan, Im an aussie and Waltzing Matilda was never a national anthem here. Im prepared to wager $100 bucks on it but then i dont want to bet on a sure thing, wouldnt be fair to you.Barry

  • ozziepost
    ozziepost

    Oh dear, how ignorant we all are of each other's part of the world!

    Mulan, i don't know which book or site you looked it up in but if it was a book, I'd say throw it away!!

    As our firend Barry has said, Waltzing Matilda was never, has never been the national anthem of Australia. It formerly was the British anthem "God Save the Queen" and was changed when Australia realised it needed to grow up and let the world see who we are.

    Although many love the song "Waltzing Matilda" it is just a well-loved folk song and not too pleasant. Certainly not to be sung for national pride. Our anthem is "Advance Australia Fair". Quite moving but there are moves.....

    Sorry Yanks, you still probably think we're Austria. That's how your broadcasters often refer to us.

    Cheers,
    Ozzie

    "If our hopes for peace are placed in the hands of imperfect people, they are bound to evaporate."

    - Ron Hutchcraft Surviving the Storms of Stress

  • Mulan
    Mulan

    I found it on a web site, that said Australia had 3 anthems, and they said the 3 I mentioned, calling them "the old one" "the new one" and "the royal one". In former Olympics, they did play Waltzing Matilda for the Australian Gold Medal ceremonies. (maybe they did it, so as not to confuse with GB) I'll find the web site again, and post it.

    Marilyn (aka Mulan)
    "No one can take advantage of you, without your permission." Ann Landers

  • ozziepost
    ozziepost

    Mulan,
    it seems fanciful to me.

    This was one of the reasons why Australia changed i.e. to differentiate from the old dart at Olymppic medals ceremonies where Australia was having the British Anthem played.

    BTW is it a USA site?
    Cheers,
    Ozzie (proud to waltzing with the matilda class)

  • Mulan
    Mulan

    I think it was an Aussie site, but not sure. I'll find it. It gave a great history of the song, and the writer of the poem.

    Marilyn (aka Mulan)
    "No one can take advantage of you, without your permission." Ann Landers

  • Mulan
    Mulan

    I cannot find the page I want. I called Princess and read it to her this morning, and now I can't find it.

    Here is one that says it's the national song, and is played at sporting events.
    http://www.matildacentre.com.au/story2.htm

    Marilyn (aka Mulan)
    "No one can take advantage of you, without your permission." Ann Landers

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