CO visit. New light

by 2tone 55 Replies latest jw friends

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  TheOldHippie

  This is not exactly a tape recording from a talk, is it? And this is not exactly the copy of a manuscript, is it? This is what a critical person (and by all means, it is 100 % all right to be critical!) remembers from the talk a couple of hours after it was given. How 100 % focused was he? His mind did not wander off slightly just 1 % of the time? He managed to listen to every word and pin them down exactly as they were spoken afterwards?

  How easy is it not to listen to a talk, to fill in a bit for oneself, to color it a bit more afterwards, to give oneself a reply to one's question about what he really said at that specific time in the talk when you did not 100 % get his meaning but filled it in with what your own critical mind figures he ought to have said if he were to live up to the idiocy which you in fact think the whole thing is - etc., etc.

  ONE person's reference to a talk ought not be enough to have a hundred others start shaking the world. Some of it is old stuff - two crowns, well they've always said he started off with a victory and then rode off to fullfill his victory in Armageddon. GB representing the FDS is old stuff too. So a CO wishing to fresh up his talk meets mister critical mind - and ...... here we go.
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  cantleave

  I really, really hope this will be a wake-up call for many......
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  yesidid

  He specifically said that since the governing body cannot come be our traveling overseer that every wednesday they get together and decide where each CO and DO will go in the world. They do this because they care about us. The governing body delegated other tasks to the branch committee but they take care of this one. Otherwise, this CO is a dumbass and doesnt know what he is talking about.

  Seeing there are several thousand co's and several hundred do's I think he would be a dumbass to suggest that the gb could "get together" each Wednesday, "and decide where each CO and DO will go in the world".

  Physical impossibillity.
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  TheOldHippie

  What he meant "obviously" would have to be that they appoint them. The branches give them their districts.
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  yesidid

  The branches give them their districts.

  and recommended dates for circuit assemblies, which then becomes the schedule for the district overseers.

  And yes Old Hippie, the branch recommends, and the GB does rubber stamp the c o and d o appointments.
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  nugget

  This is reminiscent of how they have distanced the great crowd from god and jesus. They started off as being declared righteous as friends of god to today when they can have no relationship with god and christ is no longer their mediator. This talk reinforces the idea that they are so far down the pecking order they can only glimpse divinity through the pale imitation that is the GB.

  It looks as if the faithful and discreet slave is also being downgraded. They are no longer respected in the way they once were. When I was younger there was the idea that any of those on earth could be used by Jehovah and if they felt they had an understanding then they could share this with the GB. Whether this was ever true it was certainly the impression given. Now they have been told that God only uses the governing body and that some of their members may be deranged and not part of the 144000 at all.

  All this raises the GB to messiah status and it is idolatory. Members may not know their names but their is no doubt that they demand absolute obedience. This organisation has lost it's integrity and credibility but sadly those who have been conditioned to accept it will not see the issues only feel pressure to conform.
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  Black Sheep

  He just doesn't know what he's talking about.

  He's certainly not 'running ahead', he's getting left behind. Show him these.

  WT 15 Oct 1995 p22
  
  25 This means, then, that Jesus’ ‘sitting down on his glorious throne’ for judgment, mentioned at Matthew 25:31, applies to the future point when this powerful King will sit down to pronounce and execute judgment on the nations.
  
  
  p28
  
  The point is that those responding and actively supporting the remnant of Christ’s brothers are thereby now giving evidence that will provide a basis for them to be placed on Jesus’ right hand when, in the near future, he sits down on his throne to render judgment.
  
  
  Real Faith Leads to Everlasting Happiness (brochure) 2010, Section 13, P30
  
  In the near future, Jesus, “the Son of man,” will arrive “in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit down on his glorious throne.
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  Alfred

  That sad thing is that most JWs won't ever realize that the WT changes it's teachings only after they are thoroughly bombarded with questions thay simply can't answer (not because they received a "progressive refinement").
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  Aussie Oz

  Starting the ''cover our arses'' fast are they not?

  Priming the rank and file for the extending of the last days with the 'overlapping throne teaching'...

  in case the JW lawyers comment at the WWC case about the FDS being ''a theolgical idea" gets out, they have started to prepare the rank and file for some new thinking on that one...

  And no surprise...The GOVERNING BODY have to be given all you worldy goods! GIVE them it all, you miserable scrooges!

  And interestingly enough, also using the tried and tested 'get the CO to mention it' so that if it backfires they can claim "We never said it."

  Oz
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  Heaven

  Priming the rank and file for the extending of the last days with the 'overlapping throne teaching'...

  Oz, you know it. This is now 2012 and 2014 is looming ... these wankers know "Jehovah's Special Day" is very likely going to be a no show in 2014. Time to start smoothing things over.