I went to the KH tonight

by moshe 56 Replies latest members private

  • moshe
    moshe

    I told one young brother who was holding a sleepy toddler- we had finished discussing the Jewish viewpoint on blood (not convinced yet)- and I asked him- "didn't your Jesus say you could rescue a sheep from a pit on the Sabbath- when they could be stoned for working on the sabbath? "yes" he answered,

    "So remember that if you ever have to make a life and death decision on blood (nodding at his son)- talk to a Rabbi, if you want to better understand why a blood transfusion has nothing to do with eating blood- don't let you family die over a human interpretation about blood transfusions- a teaching that the WT could change tomorrow."

    He left and I could tell he was thinking about what I told him

  • Quarterback
    Quarterback

    The reasoning for calculation the Passover is found in the following

    Feb 1, 2011 WT

    To answer that question, we need to understand two things. First, in Bible times a new day began in the evening, at sunset, and ended the next day at sunset. A day, therefore, ran from evening to evening.-Leviticus 23:32.
    Second, the Bible does not use the calendar that we use today. Rather than using months with such names as March and April, the Bible speaks of such months as Adar and Nisan. (Esther 3:7) The Jews counted their months from new moon to new moon. They celebrated the Passover on the 14th day of the first month of their calendar, Nisan. (Leviticus 23:5; Numbers 28:16) That day, Nisan 14, was the same date that the Romans impaled our Lord Jesus Christ. He died 1,545 years after the first Passover meal was celebrated. What a special date Nisan 14 is!
    But what date corresponds to Nisan 14 on our calendar today? A simple calculation helps us arrive at the proper date. Nisan 1 starts when the new moon nearest the spring equinox (the start of spring in the Northern Hemisphere) becomes visible at sunset in Jerusalem. If we count 14 days from that event, we arrive at Nisan 14. This date is usually the day of the full moon. Using this Biblical method, Nisan 14 this year begins at sunset on Sunday, April 17, 2011.

  • moshe
    moshe
  • garyneal
    garyneal

    lol, you're at it again.

    Taking notes here, I just might go with my wife to the A$$embly after all. Go to some witnesses I never saw before and see where I could go with them.

  • WontLeave
    WontLeave

    Quarterback:

    The 14th of Nisan is the preparation day for Passover. It's not actually eaten until after sundown, which places the meal on Nisan 15. JWs gather on Nisan 13 and wait for 14 to start. They are a day early. I address this subject here.

  • moshe
    moshe
    lol, you're at it again.

    yes Gary- it's hard for me to stay "retired"---

    I told them the same thing as a Jewish person- and they seemed OK with it- not even threatened by me- I kept it brief- a few minutes each.

  • Quarterback
    Quarterback

    Actually, the research on the internet (Google) states that other denominations including JW's celebrate the Memorial on Nisan 14 (Apr 5) after sundown. This is based on the calculation that the day starts in the evening. The sources on the internet say that the Jews celebrate the Passover day, correctly, on Nisan 15. JW's do not celebrate the passover. They follow the correct custom calculating the new day during the evening. The account states that the passover meal started in the evening with Jesus and his apostles. I have researched the Jewish Calendar, and did find some interesting stuff. I did the calculation from the new moon, which was customarily done in declaring the beginining of Nisan, the first month of the Jewish calendar. The JW's have it right.

  • moshe
    moshe
    The JW's have it right.

    They don't do well on quiz shows, with dates-

  • Quarterback
    Quarterback

    Wontleave,

    I started to read your post, and got looking at my computer clock.

    I am eager to get this right, so I will check it out tomorrow, and get back to you. I know that JW's make mistakes, so I will keep an open mind.

    Good evening

    QB

  • tec
    tec

    I told one young brother who was holding a sleepy toddler- we had finished discussing the Jewish viewpoint on blood (not convinced yet)- and I asked him- "didn't your Jesus say you could rescue a sheep from a pit on the Sabbath- when they could be stoned for working on the sabbath? "yes" he answered,
    "So remember that if you ever have to make a life and death decision on blood (nodding at his son)- talk to a Rabbi, if you want to better understand why a blood transfusion has nothing to do with eating blood- don't let you family die over a human interpretation about blood transfusions- a teaching that the WT could change tomorrow."

    Yes, this I like. This is designed to make someone think. Also there is no law against love, seeing as love is the greatest commandment. I can see someone twisting that by saying that hurting one person was justified because it was done to save another person in love. But there is no instance that a blood transfusion hurts anyone...unless of course you're draining someone dry like a vampire.

    Peace,

    Tammy

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