Evolution disproved by 11 year old niece

by StopTheTears 285 Replies latest jw friends

  • cofty
    cofty

    Flat_Accent - welcome to the forum!

  • N.drew
    N.drew
    What is not an option is to continue to parade your ignorance in public.

    This is my nemesis. If I had the power God knows I would what's the word for "poof" oh thank you friend atheist google vaporize people who incriminate me for what they themselves do. I think I hate that more than just about anything else.

  • Berengaria
    Berengaria
    Cofty, I find this:
    I always find it hard to understand why a god would use a process as wasteful as evolution.
    to be in conflict with this:
    The sad thing is, if believers weren't so afraid of the facts about evolution it is actually one of the most awesome and inspiring things they could study.

    It seems pretty straightforward to me. Evolution is inspiring and awesome, because it is life pushing forward. Never giving up. God if truly all powerful, has no need to allow the failure. Perfection on demand.

  • Berengaria
    Berengaria
    When was I outwitted? I don't think it was in this thread.
    Maybe I'm wrong. Were you baptized to be saved? No? Then I'm sorry, maybe you have never been outwitted

    That's not being outwitted, that's merely a point on his evolutionary path.

  • EntirelyPossible
    EntirelyPossible

    EP..I do not NEED you or anyone else to make me feel better you patronizing arse.

    Oh you poor child, resulting to name calling. I wasn't trying to make you feel better.

    STOP assuming you know how other peoples minds work and process information.

    Stop assuming you think I am assuming that. Rubber, glue, whatnot.

    I just hope one day you will be able to see what a puffed up biggot you appear to be to some people.

    It's not my fault you get your feelings hurt easily and start calling names. I just hope one day you will be able to have an adult conversation without attacking people personally. For now, and forever, though, I forgive you for being so rude and nasty on a personal level.

    May I remind you of your comment aimed at me about being 'retarded' on another thread.

    You may.

    Was that an example of your sciency words?

    Yes. Your thought processes were clearly being retarded.

    I'll try not to thow them about like you do.

    Excellent idea. It's best not to overreach your abilities. Rather than just throw about names and engage in personal attacks as you do (again, I forgive you for that), I put a LOT of thought into everything I write and will happily back it up with references and evidence.

    Seriously, I forgive you. I am here to help you. All you have to do is be willing to learn. Despite your personal attacks, I am still willing, out of love, to help you.

  • cofty
    cofty

    If I had the power God knows I would what's the word for "poof" oh thank you friend atheist google vaporize people

    "poof" is a slang word for male homosexual over here.

    Thank you for wanting to vaporize me. Maybe if you ask god nicely he will do it for you. He used to use she- bears but maybe he has progressed. Now get reading.

  • tec
    tec

    Tec - theistic evolution is a commonly held belief with some significant proponents.

    K...

    I always find it hard to understand why a god would use a process as wasteful as evolution.

    Okay, but this, as I said, seems to be in conflict with your previous thought of how awesome and inspiring it is. Why, if it is awesome and inspiring for you, does that change if you're thinking about it being a tool used in creation?

    More than 99% of all species that have ever lived were dead ends. Almost every creature that has ever lived died of starvation, predation or parasites. and that includes humans. The end result of evolution, even in humans is some classic eamples of bad design.

    I don't know why you see it that way. Are they dead ends... or have they adapted and evolved and changed along with an adapting, changing, living world? I don't see it in a bad way at all. Humans are still here, so do you list them just because people die as individuals?

    I don't know why flesh gets old and dies yet, though. Perhaps science has the answer to that... or a theory. I don't know it if it does.

    What invisible qualities of God does this reveal?

    I don't know that it reveals anything other than the fact that this universe is awesome, powerful and living.

    If we could not evolve and adapt, then we could not survive in a moving, living universe. Not as creatures that are limited to the flesh.

    (Not being limited to the flesh (as in spirit), we wouldn't die at all.)

    Even if we allow theistic evolution it actually only gets us to deism at best.
    Answered. Peace, Tammy

  • cofty
    cofty

    Its awesome and inspiring. It becomes a lot less inspiring if the answer to every question that inspires my curiosity is "god did it".

    It is massively wasteful. Yes more than 99% of species went extinct - if god did it, why?

    Almost every creature that ever lived, including thousands and thousands of years of humans died agonising deaths as a result of predation or starvation. Humans died of impacted teeth and simple infections and parasites and unclean drinking water. And god did nothing for billions of years until a bunch of ignorant bronze age nomads .....

  • still thinking
    still thinking

    stick your forgiveness up your arse EP...I don't require it.

    I also do not need the 'help' that you offer. Or your love..

    actually...you personally back up very little that you say. You just pull apart what others say.

    It's ok EP...all you have to do is be willing to learn that YOU are NOT a gift to us all. In fact. I enjoy reading threads, regardless of what they are about until you appear on them. But I will forgive you for that.

    And you are assuming things...you assume that people are being lazy because they don't agree with you (you say this relentlessly). You assume they don't want to know the facts because they don't want to hear it from you and the way you push what you think. You assume YOU are always right. Just like you assume I have a religion or religious belief. WRONG.

  • EntirelyPossible
    EntirelyPossible

    No, you don't require it, you just want it. You want it so badly you practically need it and that need makes you feel shame. It's OK, though. There is no shame here. Your rude words and attitude show how much you need help and love. I am here to help you.

    It doesn't hurt me that you project your own failings on to me, I understand why you do it, to avoid the shame of being so deficient. But understand, it doesn't have to be that way, you don't have to go through life so emotionally and intellectually retarded, prevented from enjoying a rich and full life due to your anger and hate.

    I am here to help. Always. Just let me know when you are ready.

    I forgive you, child.

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