Through The Grapevine Report on Recent Circuit Assembly

by headisspinning 24 Replies latest jw friends

  • headisspinning
    headisspinning

    I just got a call from my 'faded' sister who still has the 'pleasure' of having contact with our JW family.

    My mother called her and said that she and our dad had their circuit assembly this weekend and apparently a Governing Body member gave a talk... that seems very odd to me. Do Governing Body member usually speak at circuit assemblies? Maybe it was a Branch member?

    In any case, I'm just telling what I was told...

    This individual gave a talk and repeatedly stressed the importance of never giving up on disfellowshipped family members. (WTF?)

    I'm not clear if it was during his discourse or one that followed, but my mother said they spoke of something in New York called 'The Manhattan Project'. From what I was told, there was a brother who negotiated with Wal-Mart and finally got permission to set up a table with Watchtower literature on the store property. He discovered that most of the interest was from disfellowshipped and ex-JWs.

    From there, 'The Manhattan Project' was set up to try to reach those in locked buildings etc. Again, most of the interest shown was from df'd and ex-Jws... and several studies were started.

    Has anyone else reported on this? I'm sorry if I missed the boat, but this is the first I heard of it. Can anyone corroborate?

  • Iamallcool
  • Think About It
    Think About It

    My guess is that those JW's reporting this are so hungry for a study that they mistook X-JW's refuting their nonsense for real interest.

    Think About It

  • geevee
    geevee

    That almost runs counter to that latest wt aticle... not that that bothers them when it comes to "experiences"!

  • Gayle
    Gayle

    I guess my 'head is spinning' too on this,,they state to never give up on any DF'd family members, but on the other hand, don't speak with these DF'd members in 'any' way. So contradictory!

    On the other hand, these DF'd or ex-JWs are willing to talk with them,,several studies started, but I guess if they are DF'd or ex-JW, how are they having Bible studies with them? Aren't DF'd people just suppose to follow the program from there to go to all meetings for a year or whenever with no one speaking with them at the Hall? No JWs nor elders have 'personal' studies with them do they?

  • ScenicViewer
    ScenicViewer

    I've noticed that JWs will report as interested someone that disagrees strongly with them. Any kind of a conversation seems to be taken as interest. It's wishful thinking on their part.

    They are often so desperate to have an experience like the ones they read about they will take almost anything as positive, but the truth is, they often don't really listen to what someone is saying.

  • skeeter1
    skeeter1

    I had a family member call me while he was witnessing outside of a Walmart last year . . . . .

  • transhuman68
  • metatron
    metatron

    Step back from these remarks and think about them.

    How exactly do you 'not give up on df'd' people? What is that supposed to mean? Passively hoping they will come back? Shunning them even more? It barely makes any sense.

    What does make sense is that they have some obsession about df'd people and shunning them because they keep pounding away at it - which tells you that they seem afraid that witlesses aren't obeying or something is going wrong.

    Now, consider that a GB member has a bit more leeway in talking about this subject - apart from just parroting about shunning them. He can offer a little more propaganda to the effect that many of them really want to come back. This may be a sop to many to not object to heartless Watchtower policies because they may actually return, blah, blah, blah.

    metatron

  • 00DAD
    00DAD

    headisspinning: This individual gave a talk and repeatedly stressed the importance of never giving up on disfellowshipped family members. (WTF?)

    Remember disfellowshipping is really a loving thing and it is only by completely shunning someone for years and years, having absolutely no contact with them, that they will "come to their senses" and return to Jehovah!

    It's painful for you oh, faithful witness, because you love and miss your disfellowshipped family member, but remember: It is THEM that did the evil deed for which they were justly expelled from the clean Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses. I is THEM that are out there living evil, vile lives filled with Satanic debauchery and lustful indulgence. It is THEM that care not at all for you and selfishly stay away from Jehovah's Clean Organization.

    If they try to contact you and tell you they are are having a good time, were thinking of you, they miss you and wish you could be with them to share it with them: DO NOT BE MISLED! They are lying to you.

    • They are NOT having a good time - they are miserable and lonely and need your warm human love. Do not give them this!
    • They are NOT thinking of you - they are only thinking of their own selfish self. They don't love you, they only miss your warm, sweet, unconditional Christian love that comes from the undeserved kindness from Jehovah of Armies - Jeremiah 17:9
    • They do NOT miss you - they are only pitiable and pathetic and have not yet learned to "humble themselves under the mighty hand of God". Do NOT deprive them of Jehovah's discipline, for Jehovah only discipline those that he loves. - Isaiah 75:37
    • They do NOT wish you were with them - they are alone and cold in the hard elements outside of Jehovah's protective pen. No they wish to be with you! But before that can happen they must first "return to Jehovah". - Zedekiah 3:16

    Perhaps your disfellowshipped loved ones that you miss so much will try to contact you and pretend to be sincerely interested in having what they will deceitfully call a "normal relationship" but DO NOT BE MISLED oh, faithful ones of Jehovah. For they are only seeking to fill your minds with foul corruption and Satanic thoughts. You must stand firm, solid in the faith knowing that many of your faithful brothers and sisters are undergoing similar trials and tribulations throughout the earth. - Mariachi 13:2

    Consider the example of Andre, a young Witness for Jehovah in Lower Slobovia. His father had the audacity to question the logic of the New-Light from Jehovah regarding the "overlapping-generations" teaching which was recently revealed from Jehovah God, the Almighty through his "Faithful and Discreet Slave" and their Governing Body. He, the father of Andre, was mercifully disfellowshipped for his brazenly rebellious attitude towards the anointed of Jehovah. Like Korah, the rebellious ones must be removed for the protection of pure worship in the clean congregation of Jehovah's "loyal ones." We must likewise always show our loyalty towards the "Faithful and Discreet Slave" and their representative Governing Body. Andre's father would call him, Andre that is, and tell him he loved him and missed him. These were of course apostate lies. Andre's father would even invent fictitious tales that his life was good, clearly these were more lies from Satan designed to play on Andre's natural affection for his father. We know that all that leave Jehovah are "pitiable, miserable and without hope in the world."

    It was only because of Andre's steadfast devotion to upholding Theocratic Righteousness that his father finally humbled himself and repentantly sought Jehovah's forgiveness. Eventually he was restored to the Christian Congregation. Andre's father said, "Had my son spoken to me even once, uttered even one word such as, 'Hello, who is this?' I am certain that I never would have returned to Jehovah and the warm love and affection of the true congregation unitedly serving our loyal God to do his will in Christian activities in this Time so near the impending End which is coming soon, very soon. It is only because of my son's unwavering devotion to righteousness and his firmly upholding Jehovah's standards that I saw the need to make the necessary changes in my life and return to the one True Christian Congregation on earth."

    Loyal ones, take heart from this fear inspiring account of unwavering faith. Never falter in your devotion to Jehovah and his Visible Organization represented by the seven members of the Governing Body in Brooklyn that represent the worldwide composite of anointed ones that comprise the "Faithful and Discreet Slave" class which--admittedly is confusing because they say they don't know who they are and never, ever explain how that is supposed to work, but nevertheless are busily and tirelessly--dispensing the "spiritual food at the proper time." Do not give out, for in due season you will reap. -- Hosea 17:32

    With warm Christian Love,

    The Gubberning Body of Gee-hovah's Witlesses

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