the ulitmate defeatist attitude. I hate it. They just throw their arms up about "this system of things" and refuse to be happy about anything. This also rolls over into not doing a single thing for mankind because this system is on the way out
"You should never look for/expect happiness in this world"
by ilikecheese 32 Replies latest jw friends
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wha happened?
Why are you torturing yourself with a JW boyfriend? Get out while u can
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tornapart
Punkofnice.. so that WT article actually admits to brainwashing it's members then? LOL
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InterestedOne
"You won't find happiness in this world, and you shouldn't look for it."
I wasted over 15 years with that voice in the back of my head. I often felt confused because of it. It's good to acknowledge that things are not perfect, but the phrase quoted above goes too far. It is too extreme and can be mentally crippling. Although you are hearing it from a JW, in my life that voice came from the concepts I found in several versions of Christianity and their bibles. I am so glad I distanced myself from that religion.
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2tone
He just doesnt want to admit that there is happiness and good things in this world. If he found those things it might mean his belief system is flawed. Thats why there should be not even effort to look for happiness.
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jamiebowers
You should never look for/expect happiness in this world
Please be aware that the Watchtower pounds this thinking into jw brains, because it is a way to get them to spend most of their time and effort on the cult and nothing else. Please don't marry or have children with this guy until he is sure about the Watchtower. You think it's a drag now; having him think that he's your head and/or he has to save your children from Armageddon would be a whole lot worse!
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Band on the Run
I was in utter agony with facial pain for many years. During the worst, I never had the attitude. MY JW relatives toed that line all the time. Jesus did fun things. Making water into fine wine, dancing. He dined with Pharisees. Even Jesus did spend his entire life on the crucifix. In the midst of my agony, I had wonderful memories of a full life. Portions of my life have been so good that my wildest fantasies could not have imagined such goodness. I was suicidal for years.
The sad part is that if you believe that this world is evil, it will be. Your experience of it will be that it is evil. The world will only be the world.
This thought leads right to we must suffer and attending meetings, study, go in Fs and give money to the wTBTS. It is our only hope before God destroys the creation he repeatedly declared good in Genesis.
Life can be exquisitely beautiful. The mere act of hearing such a statement will bring you down.
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
Hey cheese,
I saw this thread earlier today and brought it up with my therapist. It's a hopelessness, defeatest, unhappy teaching that still lingers in the back of my own mind sometimes. Perhaps the best response to his statement is to ask, "Why not?" It's a reality that there will be unhappiness in life, but why expect that there should never be happiness.
As I get my brain unwound by a psychologist, it was terrible the decades I put my life and possibilities of happiness on hold because of that religion. They taught me that the only way to find happiness "in this world" was to slave for Watchtower, but I really wasn't happy then. Why wasn't I happy? Obviously because I "wasn't doing enough, wasn't spiritual enough," according to WT. It was an exhausting, unhappy, guilt-ridden life while I believed that leaving the corporation would make me unhappier. It was crazy. Underneath it all was the terrible teaching that the only happiness I could ever hope to find would be in a future "paradise" that required the slaughter of billions of innocent people and children that "wickedly" chose not to follow, or never heard of Jehovah's Witnesses. Gosh, how happifying that I would get my pet panda at the expense of the lives of billions of humans.
The reality is that I haven't attended a meeting in months. And I'm happier than I've ever been before in my life.
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garyneal
Why are you torturing yourself with a JW boyfriend? Get out while u can
Good question, why are you torturing yourself with this. Run, RUN, RUN AWAY....
If you marry him, here is your future:
- Kids are not allowed birthdays or any holidays (not even Mother's Day or Valentine's Day).
- Your kids will be taught that you will be killed at armageddon and will not make it into the New System TM .
- Your future husband may deny a blood transfusion for you and/or your kids even if it means death.
- Your husband will insist on being the spiritual head and may disallow your taking the kids to church (assuming you go to church).